Comments on: SkyRider, A New P2P Start Up Emerges http://gigaom.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:47:41 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Skyrider Shuffles Its Deck « NewTeeVee http://gigaom.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/#comment-864457 Skyrider Shuffles Its Deck « NewTeeVee Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:32:02 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/#comment-864457 <p>[...] a big product, the company would be hard-pressed to get a favorable valuation. Skyrider, which we first profiled in August 2006, had previously raised $20 million over three rounds. Cohen said the company has 33 [...]</p> [...] a big product, the company would be hard-pressed to get a favorable valuation. Skyrider, which we first profiled in August 2006, had previously raised $20 million over three rounds. Cohen said the company has 33 [...]

]]> By: Gurgle http://gigaom.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/#comment-573255 Gurgle Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:17:26 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/#comment-573255 <p>They seem to have taken all the failure execs (and employees?!) from Yahoo who really just happened to do nothing while drawing nice fat salaries. So after coming up with an idea for a startup that was a failure, they reinvented themselves as a "search company", hired all these worthless employees and now hope to hit it big.. Hmm, IMHO I dont think these guys stand a chance..</p> They seem to have taken all the failure execs (and employees?!) from Yahoo who really just happened to do nothing while drawing nice fat salaries. So after coming up with an idea for a startup that was a failure, they reinvented themselves as a “search company”, hired all these worthless employees and now hope to hit it big.. Hmm, IMHO I dont think these guys stand a chance..

]]> By: David Baxtin http://gigaom.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/#comment-59243 David Baxtin Thu, 07 Sep 2006 22:25:31 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/#comment-59243 <p>This is a company that is doing targeted searches based on keyword entries. To be honest, they are going to be dissappointed. The first is the founders age. This is a field for the young and their notion that P2P networks are growing in popularity is a serious mistake on their side. In actuallity the human count of P2P users is going down because of fake files, viruses, and now Skyrider spam.</p> <p>Torrents on the other hand are exploding in popularity. But guess what? Torrent files are indexed on community sites and the point of contact is community sites. So game over for SkyRider. The field is hot, but this is the wrong angle.</p> This is a company that is doing targeted searches based on keyword entries. To be honest, they are going to be dissappointed. The first is the founders age. This is a field for the young and their notion that P2P networks are growing in popularity is a serious mistake on their side. In actuallity the human count of P2P users is going down because of fake files, viruses, and now Skyrider spam.

Torrents on the other hand are exploding in popularity. But guess what? Torrent files are indexed on community sites and the point of contact is community sites. So game over for SkyRider. The field is hot, but this is the wrong angle.

]]> By: Starked SF, Unforgiving Valley News » Blog Archive » Remains of the Day: Thursday http://gigaom.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/#comment-59242 Starked SF, Unforgiving Valley News » Blog Archive » Remains of the Day: Thursday Fri, 11 Aug 2006 03:04:11 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/#comment-59242 <p>[…] GigaOm tells of Skyrider P2P action. […]</p> […] GigaOm tells of Skyrider P2P action. […]

]]> By: greatinca.com Blog » Blog Archive » P2P File Sharing News Comments 2006-08-09 http://gigaom.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/#comment-59241 greatinca.com Blog » Blog Archive » P2P File Sharing News Comments 2006-08-09 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 01:13:52 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/#comment-59241 <p>[…] GigaOM - SkyRider, A New P2P Start Up Emerges […]</p> […] GigaOM – SkyRider, A New P2P Start Up Emerges […]

]]> By: ronin http://gigaom.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/#comment-59240 ronin Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:28:33 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/#comment-59240 <p>I understand Krawler[x] is the first true-blue p2p social network ?</p> <p>http://blogs.zdnet.com/web2explorer/?p=244</p> I understand Krawler[x] is the first true-blue p2p social network ?

http://blogs.zdnet.com/web2explorer/?p=244

]]> By: Slingshot http://gigaom.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/#comment-59239 Slingshot Thu, 03 Aug 2006 20:08:39 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/#comment-59239 <p>I think that this is a restart from Cright, an enterprise security company. Ori, Edward, and Stas manage(d) Cright and received $7m in funding from Seequoia and CRV about a year ago.</p> I think that this is a restart from Cright, an enterprise security company. Ori, Edward, and Stas manage(d) Cright and received $7m in funding from Seequoia and CRV about a year ago.

]]> By: alessio http://gigaom.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/#comment-59238 alessio Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:35:23 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/#comment-59238 <p>everage P2P and social networks together: there is allpeers…</p> everage P2P and social networks together: there is allpeers…

]]> By: Isabel Wang http://gigaom.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/#comment-59237 Isabel Wang Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:28:03 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/#comment-59237 <p>Recently both Tim O'Reilly and Jon Udell wrote about "open source, perhaps P2P infrastructure", as a way for developers to prevent Google/Microsoft/Yahoo!/Amazon from gaining undue influence based on their economies of scale. Jon's InfoWorld article mentions CoralCDN. From there, I found links to a number of P2P academic projects. Does anyone know if they're still under development?</p> <ol> <li><p>MIT's "Chord" and "Cooperative File System": P2P read only storage system. Paper was published in 2001.</p></li> <li><p>UC Berkeley's "OceanStore": high availability storage utility than runs atop an infrastructure of untrusted servers. Site was last updated in 2002.</p></li> <li><p>"Pastry": application-indepedent overlay network for routing requests and locating data among P2P nodes. Microsoft Research, Purdue and Washington University are involved with the project.</p></li> <li><p>CoralCDN itself sounds pretty cool. Like RedSwoosh, it's a P2P content distribution network, but oes not require users to download a desktop client. It's run by New York University in conjunction with "Illuminati" a research project for measuring the distance between web clients and their DNS resolvers.</p></li> </ol> <p>Sources:</p> <p>A more detailed summary of the above projects: http://isabelwang.typepad.com/blog/2006/07/open<em>infrastruc</em>1.html</p> <p>Jon Udell's article http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/07/26/31OPstrategic_1.html</p> <p>Tim O'Reilly's post: http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2006/07/the<em>rise</em>of<em>open</em>infrastructur.html</p> <p>CoralCDN: http://www.coralcdn.org</p> <p>Cooperative File System: http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/papers/cfs:sosp01/</p> <p>OceanStore: http://oceanstore.cs.berkeley.edu/info/overview.html</p> <p>Pastry: http://freepastry.org/</p> Recently both Tim O’Reilly and Jon Udell wrote about “open source, perhaps P2P infrastructure”, as a way for developers to prevent Google/Microsoft/Yahoo!/Amazon from gaining undue influence based on their economies of scale. Jon’s InfoWorld article mentions CoralCDN. From there, I found links to a number of P2P academic projects. Does anyone know if they’re still under development?

  1. MIT’s “Chord” and “Cooperative File System”: P2P read only storage system. Paper was published in 2001.

  2. UC Berkeley’s “OceanStore”: high availability storage utility than runs atop an infrastructure of untrusted servers. Site was last updated in 2002.

  3. “Pastry”: application-indepedent overlay network for routing requests and locating data among P2P nodes. Microsoft Research, Purdue and Washington University are involved with the project.

  4. CoralCDN itself sounds pretty cool. Like RedSwoosh, it’s a P2P content distribution network, but oes not require users to download a desktop client. It’s run by New York University in conjunction with “Illuminati” a research project for measuring the distance between web clients and their DNS resolvers.

Sources:

A more detailed summary of the above projects: http://isabelwang.typepad.com/blog/2006/07/openinfrastruc1.html

Jon Udell’s article http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/07/26/31OPstrategic_1.html

Tim O’Reilly’s post: http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2006/07/theriseofopeninfrastructur.html

CoralCDN: http://www.coralcdn.org

Cooperative File System: http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/papers/cfs:sosp01/

OceanStore: http://oceanstore.cs.berkeley.edu/info/overview.html

Pastry: http://freepastry.org/

]]> By: SG http://gigaom.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/#comment-59236 SG Thu, 03 Aug 2006 14:00:53 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/#comment-59236 <p>Enterprise P2P or real P2P has a some serious debacles to overcome in terms of Digital Rights Management. DRM at this level is quite tricky becuase first most of these loosely consistent architectures have a view of the data (bunch of bits) can be created somewhere and own somewhere else and their is no way to protect it. Data gets transfered from one node to another via the DHT or wherever mechanism one chooses to deploy internally, but who owns the content and who enforces the protection of the content.</p> <p>Perhaps their is a new business opportunity that may develop using this P2P infrastructure, if you will. A distributed commerce model can be applied to this infrastructure. (Maybe an idea to start something new for me…)</p> <p>P2P allows a good network or a strong infrastructure to reach people. Some of them be consumers of your service. If their are ways to track where exactly your content has mades its way and with a distributed trust model (which is always up) one can start selling content and consumers of the content can start buying them then their is some strong affinity based target marketing solution that can be developed. Perhaps Ed, Ori should think about it? It is not very difficult. I know how to do it. The business needs seem to be coming alive for these types of business. The P2P products vendors are focusing on selling their P2P architecture and software solution and are trying to make money off of them. But what exactly will the consumers of this technology equate their ROI to? Some real facts to think about. After all business is about making money. And their are a million already-existing data sharing technique and solutions out their.</p> <p>Please comment or send me your feedback as I am getting interested in this.</p> <p>My two cents. SG sganguly@yahoo.com</p> Enterprise P2P or real P2P has a some serious debacles to overcome in terms of Digital Rights Management. DRM at this level is quite tricky becuase first most of these loosely consistent architectures have a view of the data (bunch of bits) can be created somewhere and own somewhere else and their is no way to protect it. Data gets transfered from one node to another via the DHT or wherever mechanism one chooses to deploy internally, but who owns the content and who enforces the protection of the content.

Perhaps their is a new business opportunity that may develop using this P2P infrastructure, if you will. A distributed commerce model can be applied to this infrastructure. (Maybe an idea to start something new for me…)

P2P allows a good network or a strong infrastructure to reach people. Some of them be consumers of your service. If their are ways to track where exactly your content has mades its way and with a distributed trust model (which is always up) one can start selling content and consumers of the content can start buying them then their is some strong affinity based target marketing solution that can be developed. Perhaps Ed, Ori should think about it? It is not very difficult. I know how to do it. The business needs seem to be coming alive for these types of business. The P2P products vendors are focusing on selling their P2P architecture and software solution and are trying to make money off of them. But what exactly will the consumers of this technology equate their ROI to? Some real facts to think about. After all business is about making money. And their are a million already-existing data sharing technique and solutions out their.

Please comment or send me your feedback as I am getting interested in this.

My two cents. SG sganguly@yahoo.com

]]> By: Innovation Zen http://gigaom.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/#comment-59235 Innovation Zen Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:42:14 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/skyrider/#comment-59235 <p>I wonder if there are any companies out there trying to leverage P2P and social networks together. Most focus on either one or the other, but the combination could be interesting if approached wit the the right model.</p> I wonder if there are any companies out there trying to leverage P2P and social networks together. Most focus on either one or the other, but the combination could be interesting if approached wit the the right model.

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