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	<title>Comments on: The German MySpace: Lokalisten</title>
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		<title>By: associate</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/07/21/german-myspace/#comment-882217</link>
		<dc:creator>associate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post.</description>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/07/21/german-myspace/#comment-873079</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I really dont think that (germany) need a my space ) my space messt up sooooo many lifes that i think would be the worse thing in germany i understand that my space will make great money of the advertising but messing with poeples lifes ( teenegers ) to make big miney that is just wrong.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really dont think that (germany) need a my space ) my space messt up sooooo many lifes that i think would be the worse thing in germany i understand that my space will make great money of the advertising but messing with poeples lifes ( teenegers ) to make big miney that is just wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Comment on The German MySpace: Lokalisten by klingeltöne zum &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comment on The German MySpace: Lokalisten by klingeltöne zum &#8230;</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: nin</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/07/21/german-myspace/#comment-709588</link>
		<dc:creator>nin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You are probably not from Munich. EVERYBODY I know has a account on Lokalisten(except older people like my parents, grandparents, etc; but most everybody in my school and it is getting more and more).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are probably not from Munich. EVERYBODY I know has a account on Lokalisten(except older people like my parents, grandparents, etc; but most everybody in my school and it is getting more and more).</p>
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		<title>By: Mihel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/07/21/german-myspace/#comment-548457</link>
		<dc:creator>Mihel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In Germany (were i come from) are studivz.net and schuelervz.net muche more populare than lokalisten!!!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Germany (were i come from) are studivz.net and schuelervz.net muche more populare than lokalisten!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Henrik Schult</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/07/21/german-myspace/#comment-218468</link>
		<dc:creator>Henrik Schult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As far as i have seen, there is only one true myspace competitor in German. I am referring to Wamba.com , although they are also young they are growing a lot between teenagers and youngsters. Besides that, no doubt studivz did have a big success in the students community.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as i have seen, there is only one true myspace competitor in German. I am referring to Wamba.com , although they are also young they are growing a lot between teenagers and youngsters. Besides that, no doubt studivz did have a big success in the students community.</p>
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		<title>By: Scottish</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/07/21/german-myspace/#comment-58133</link>
		<dc:creator>Scottish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Meinplatz.de has been launched by a few German University Students.  Although it is in its infancy, it seems to be the most advanced German social networking site with the ability to be marketed to a broad German audience.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meinplatz.de has been launched by a few German University Students.  Although it is in its infancy, it seems to be the most advanced German social networking site with the ability to be marketed to a broad German audience.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerr</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/07/21/german-myspace/#comment-58131</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 13:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Face Buddies LTD have introduced a new a community portal called
FaceBuddies.com When asked why is Face Buddies so unique Managing
Director
Kerr Gracie quoted 'We offer the user a new experience in all aspects of
community portals. We have new video uploading software for people to
upload
their own videos which would be a great way for bands to promote
themselves
cheaply and effectivley by targeting people who really want to listen to
them,Members can upload as many photos as they want which is unique with
these
types of groups and make a really unique blog along with music that they
may
have produced which would be great for bedroom dj's and producers, We
encourage people who are wanting to promote themselves and it will be
exciting
to see some of our members express their talent and get noticed and we
hope
they do as we give a opportunity for younger generations to promote
themselves
in a freindly and safe enviroment which we feel other site lack which is
of
prior importance'&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Face Buddies LTD can be found at www.FaceBuddies.com&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Face Buddies LTD have introduced a new a community portal called<br />
FaceBuddies.com When asked why is Face Buddies so unique Managing<br />
Director<br />
Kerr Gracie quoted &#8216;We offer the user a new experience in all aspects of<br />
community portals. We have new video uploading software for people to<br />
upload<br />
their own videos which would be a great way for bands to promote<br />
themselves<br />
cheaply and effectivley by targeting people who really want to listen to<br />
them,Members can upload as many photos as they want which is unique with<br />
these<br />
types of groups and make a really unique blog along with music that they<br />
may<br />
have produced which would be great for bedroom dj&#8217;s and producers, We<br />
encourage people who are wanting to promote themselves and it will be<br />
exciting<br />
to see some of our members express their talent and get noticed and we<br />
hope<br />
they do as we give a opportunity for younger generations to promote<br />
themselves<br />
in a freindly and safe enviroment which we feel other site lack which is<br />
of<br />
prior importance&#8217;</p>
<p>Face Buddies LTD can be found at  (<a href="http://www.FaceBuddies.com" rel="nofollow">link</a>) </p>
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		<title>By: maicky</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/07/21/german-myspace/#comment-58129</link>
		<dc:creator>maicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 05:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ya, johann,
Some kids suspended at the beginning of the summer for wearing those t-shirts upstate ny&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.cafepress.com/urbangrenade&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya, johann,<br />
Some kids suspended at the beginning of the summer for wearing those t-shirts upstate ny</p>
<p> (<a href="http://www.cafepress.com/urbangrenade" rel="nofollow">link</a>) </p>
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		<title>By: PanMan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/07/21/german-myspace/#comment-58127</link>
		<dc:creator>PanMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 13:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It seems many counties have their own social network: Orkut seems to be a success in Brazil and here in the Netherlands we have Hyves that has now 2 million members, of which I'd guess some 1   million Dutch. That's quite large on a population of 'only' 16 million. I don't know their viewing numbers, but I'd guess they are pretty big.
So by comparison, the Lokalisten thing seems pretty small to me (as Germany has some 82  million inhabitants).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems many counties have their own social network: Orkut seems to be a success in Brazil and here in the Netherlands we have Hyves that has now 2 million members, of which I&#8217;d guess some 1   million Dutch. That&#8217;s quite large on a population of &#8216;only&#8217; 16 million. I don&#8217;t know their viewing numbers, but I&#8217;d guess they are pretty big.<br />
So by comparison, the Lokalisten thing seems pretty small to me (as Germany has some 82  million inhabitants).</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hitchen</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/07/21/german-myspace/#comment-58126</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hitchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 10:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I'm an avid lokalisten user and although I live in Munich where the majority of their audience comes from, I know it's expanded to other cities throughout Germany as well and is taking off there. It's a real phenomenon and has become a talking-point at parties, cafes and uni's around Munich (if not Germany) and it's not unusual to hear of "lokalisten love stories"! The founders helped this buzz by keeping their identities secret. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The audience seems to have dropped from late twenties, when the service began, to late teens / early twenties. This is of course a key demographic for many advertisers (e.g. MTV), so one presumes it won't be long before some form of ads are introduced to the site. Mobile will be key to their success (combine location-based services with premium sms as a revenue source - voting, downloads etc.) but the exciting thing for lokalisten is that they can still develop the site so much and have grown this audience without any promotion and minimal cost.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an avid lokalisten user and although I live in Munich where the majority of their audience comes from, I know it&#8217;s expanded to other cities throughout Germany as well and is taking off there. It&#8217;s a real phenomenon and has become a talking-point at parties, cafes and uni&#8217;s around Munich (if not Germany) and it&#8217;s not unusual to hear of &#8220;lokalisten love stories&#8221;! The founders helped this buzz by keeping their identities secret. </p>
<p>The audience seems to have dropped from late twenties, when the service began, to late teens / early twenties. This is of course a key demographic for many advertisers (e.g. MTV), so one presumes it won&#8217;t be long before some form of ads are introduced to the site. Mobile will be key to their success (combine location-based services with premium sms as a revenue source - voting, downloads etc.) but the exciting thing for lokalisten is that they can still develop the site so much and have grown this audience without any promotion and minimal cost.</p>
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		<title>By: Debra Macking</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/07/21/german-myspace/#comment-58125</link>
		<dc:creator>Debra Macking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 07:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Its not yet in German but if someone with language expertise&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;www.apbctr.com -  a new networking site that is more focused on community than popularity. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;APBctr.com is a networking community, but more than that. The goal is to promote a deeper sense of community. APBctr.com seeks to network people who are 'close' to each other, either through location, college, or academic interests. The goal is for a site with purpose, with members who are seeking to get to know others, to learn, to grow, to expand their horizons. The site is meant to inspire people, to help dreams get reached, to help create a better world that may not be perfect but is in a state of forward motion, of achieving. To bring out the "old-time neighborhood in the new-time world". &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;APBctr.com features include but are not limited to:
* Profiles to tell the world about yourself
* A photo gallery to display pictures
* Journal to express your thoughts and ideas
* Internal message system for users to contact each other
* A forum system for users to discuss topics
* A favorites list for users, locations and forums
* A way for local businesses and organizations to advertise to their local audience
* Tables to show off your collections of music, movies and books.
* A system to search for users, as well as searching the various collections of music, movies and books that users may have listed for trade or sale. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Three other sections that are being developed and an important part of the site are:
Environment Issues: http://www.apbctr.com/extra/environment.php
Ideological Systems: http://www.apbctr.com/extra/ideological.php
Giving/Volunteering: http://www.apbctr.com/extra/giving.php&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not yet in German but if someone with language expertise&#8230;</p>
<p> (<a href="http://www.apbctr.com" rel="nofollow">link</a>)  -  a new networking site that is more focused on community than popularity. </p>
<p>APBctr.com is a networking community, but more than that. The goal is to promote a deeper sense of community. APBctr.com seeks to network people who are &#8216;close&#8217; to each other, either through location, college, or academic interests. The goal is for a site with purpose, with members who are seeking to get to know others, to learn, to grow, to expand their horizons. The site is meant to inspire people, to help dreams get reached, to help create a better world that may not be perfect but is in a state of forward motion, of achieving. To bring out the &#8220;old-time neighborhood in the new-time world&#8221;. </p>
<p>APBctr.com features include but are not limited to:<br />
* Profiles to tell the world about yourself<br />
* A photo gallery to display pictures<br />
* Journal to express your thoughts and ideas<br />
* Internal message system for users to contact each other<br />
* A forum system for users to discuss topics<br />
* A favorites list for users, locations and forums<br />
* A way for local businesses and organizations to advertise to their local audience<br />
* Tables to show off your collections of music, movies and books.<br />
* A system to search for users, as well as searching the various collections of music, movies and books that users may have listed for trade or sale. </p>
<p>Three other sections that are being developed and an important part of the site are:<br />
Environment Issues:  (<a href="http://www.apbctr.com/extra/environment.php" rel="nofollow">link</a>) <br />
Ideological Systems:  (<a href="http://www.apbctr.com/extra/ideological.php" rel="nofollow">link</a>) <br />
Giving/Volunteering:  (<a href="http://www.apbctr.com/extra/giving.php" rel="nofollow">link</a>) </p>
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		<title>By: Dave McClure</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/07/21/german-myspace/#comment-58115</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave McClure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 08:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;so i guess if we're surveying social networking sites around the world, you should review &lt;a href="http://mixi.jp/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Mixi&lt;/a&gt; in Japan.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;pete cashmore did a brief summary on &lt;a href="http://mashable.com/2006/07/08/mixi-japans-biggest-social-network/" rel="nofollow"&gt;mashable&lt;/a&gt; recently, and richard macmanus covered mixi along with several other japanese sites on &lt;a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/japan_web_marke.php" rel="nofollow"&gt;read write web&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(whoops, sorry that was actually &lt;a href="http://www.pingmag.jp/2006/07/06/web-20-in-japan/" rel="nofollow"&gt;PingMag&lt;/a&gt; that richard summarized on RWW)&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so i guess if we&#8217;re surveying social networking sites around the world, you should review <a href="http://mixi.jp/" rel="nofollow">Mixi</a> in Japan.</p>
<p>pete cashmore did a brief summary on <a href="http://mashable.com/2006/07/08/mixi-japans-biggest-social-network/" rel="nofollow">mashable</a> recently, and richard macmanus covered mixi along with several other japanese sites on <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/japan_web_marke.php" rel="nofollow">read write web</a>.</p>
<p>(whoops, sorry that was actually <a href="http://www.pingmag.jp/2006/07/06/web-20-in-japan/" rel="nofollow">PingMag</a> that richard summarized on RWW)</p>
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		<title>By: The analyst</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/07/21/german-myspace/#comment-58109</link>
		<dc:creator>The analyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 07:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As Juhani stated their seem to be many localized social networks in Europe with strong followings, www.lunarstorm.se has 1.2M  users = 10% of sweden's population.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I believe that the mobile social community space will also see some growth surge in the next 12 months. The mobile user is clearly a business model winner for value added services such as SMS and content plus the potential of mobile advertising.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think Cyworld will be making a move into Europe at some stage soon and I expect they will be looking to emulate their success at home (17M  users). Another new entrant to the market showing positive signs : www.zedge.net, 2.6M users according to its front page.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My view would be to grow the mobile elements in Myspace before considering localisation, much more lucrative revenue potential to Rupert's investment. Also localisation is not just changing the language, it's understanding the cultures within each country as well, this could cost much time and investment for them. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It may surprise you, but Germany has a population of over 2.1M Turkish people, as well as over 5M other nationalities. Will these be covered in the Myspace target for the German market?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Juhani stated their seem to be many localized social networks in Europe with strong followings,  (<a href="http://www.lunarstorm.se" rel="nofollow">link</a>)  has 1.2M  users = 10% of sweden&#8217;s population.</p>
<p>I believe that the mobile social community space will also see some growth surge in the next 12 months. The mobile user is clearly a business model winner for value added services such as SMS and content plus the potential of mobile advertising.</p>
<p>I think Cyworld will be making a move into Europe at some stage soon and I expect they will be looking to emulate their success at home (17M  users). Another new entrant to the market showing positive signs :  (<a href="http://www.zedge.net" rel="nofollow">link</a>) , 2.6M users according to its front page.</p>
<p>My view would be to grow the mobile elements in Myspace before considering localisation, much more lucrative revenue potential to Rupert&#8217;s investment. Also localisation is not just changing the language, it&#8217;s understanding the cultures within each country as well, this could cost much time and investment for them. </p>
<p>It may surprise you, but Germany has a population of over 2.1M Turkish people, as well as over 5M other nationalities. Will these be covered in the Myspace target for the German market?</p>
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