Comments on: Personal P2P Getting Hot http://gigaom.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/ Tracking the Internet Evolution Wed, 08 Oct 2008 02:39:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Swapper, for faster file transfers via caching at Blog O Sphere http://gigaom.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-145136 Swapper, for faster file transfers via caching at Blog O Sphere Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:23:17 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-145136 <p>[...] Personal peer-to-peer (p2p) and personal file sharing services are dime a dozen. Not a day passes when some new start-up shows up with a new offering, with a slightly different twist. [...]</p> [...] Personal peer-to-peer (p2p) and personal file sharing services are dime a dozen. Not a day passes when some new start-up shows up with a new offering, with a slightly different twist. [...]

]]> By: GigaOM » Swapper, for faster file transfers via caching http://gigaom.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52493 GigaOM » Swapper, for faster file transfers via caching Thu, 03 May 2007 08:00:11 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52493 <p>[...] Personal peer-to-peer (p2p) and personal file sharing services are dime a dozen. Not a day passes when some new start-up shows up with a new offering, with a slightly different twist. [...]</p> [...] Personal peer-to-peer (p2p) and personal file sharing services are dime a dozen. Not a day passes when some new start-up shows up with a new offering, with a slightly different twist. [...]

]]> By: GigaOM » Swapper, for faster file transfers via caching http://gigaom.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52494 GigaOM » Swapper, for faster file transfers via caching Thu, 03 May 2007 08:00:11 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52494 <p>[...] Personal peer-to-peer (p2p) and personal file sharing services are dime a dozen. Not a day passes when some new start-up shows up with a new offering, with a slightly different twist. [...]</p> [...] Personal peer-to-peer (p2p) and personal file sharing services are dime a dozen. Not a day passes when some new start-up shows up with a new offering, with a slightly different twist. [...]

]]> By: darknight http://gigaom.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52492 darknight Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:29:20 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52492 <p>speaking of WASTE , most new users of WASTE find it hard to have its initial setup of network. theres a public mesh that lets new users in and have the feel of it..try them</p> <p>http://waste.vimicorp.com/wp/</p> speaking of WASTE , most new users of WASTE find it hard to have its initial setup of network. theres a public mesh that lets new users in and have the feel of it..try them

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]]> By: Dave Toole http://gigaom.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52491 Dave Toole Wed, 12 Jul 2006 22:17:46 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52491 <p>Moving large files in private networks continues to heat up, we started on this path 5 years ago with an application called SpinXpress, lets you create a private invitation network for sharing files directly between peers. There is a major demand for keeping private what is ours to share. Great to see the validation on the market.</p> Moving large files in private networks continues to heat up, we started on this path 5 years ago with an application called SpinXpress, lets you create a private invitation network for sharing files directly between peers. There is a major demand for keeping private what is ours to share. Great to see the validation on the market.

]]> By: Rob http://gigaom.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52490 Rob Thu, 01 Jun 2006 03:46:39 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52490 <p>Um…, why exactly is anyone calling those services mentioned above p2p? (peerfactor and zapr) If you send a file to a server (eg. a web-server) with a client (eg. a web-browser), and someone else uses a client to get the file from the server, then by definition what you have is a client-server model, not peer-to-peer.</p> <p>If you sent the file over MSN, yahoo, etc you could argue that its p2p as the file moves directly from your computer to your friends (between two peers - hence peer to peer), however most IM networks are still considered client-server as you can't even login to MSN without the MSN servers running.</p> <p>IMHO "personal p2p" should be technologies like waste, where small groups of people can setup private file-sharing networks between themselves.</p> Um…, why exactly is anyone calling those services mentioned above p2p? (peerfactor and zapr) If you send a file to a server (eg. a web-server) with a client (eg. a web-browser), and someone else uses a client to get the file from the server, then by definition what you have is a client-server model, not peer-to-peer.

If you sent the file over MSN, yahoo, etc you could argue that its p2p as the file moves directly from your computer to your friends (between two peers - hence peer to peer), however most IM networks are still considered client-server as you can’t even login to MSN without the MSN servers running.

IMHO “personal p2p” should be technologies like waste, where small groups of people can setup private file-sharing networks between themselves.

]]> By: Nicolas Toper http://gigaom.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52489 Nicolas Toper Wed, 31 May 2006 23:24:47 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52489 <p>Personal P2P (P4?) might soon be more important than regular P2P networks. It models more closely how we work as a society, especially an Internet based one. </p> <p>One important marketing issue: the barrier to entry to those app is really low. This is why so many start-up have been born. </p> <p>The socioeconomics is quite close tocial (MySpace, Friendster,…) and IM (AIM, MSN,…) softwares. The winner takes all?</p> <p>One last points: MSN Messenger offer a shared directory with one of your contact. You put a file there, your contact has it. </p> <p>Does this mean the grown-ups are already entering this market? Is this already the end of those start-ups?</p> <p>Probably not, but they need to think less of technology (and an easy one to master) and more about which market they want (cf. Groove and its position on collaboration application).</p> Personal P2P (P4?) might soon be more important than regular P2P networks. It models more closely how we work as a society, especially an Internet based one.

One important marketing issue: the barrier to entry to those app is really low. This is why so many start-up have been born.

The socioeconomics is quite close tocial (MySpace, Friendster,…) and IM (AIM, MSN,…) softwares. The winner takes all?

One last points: MSN Messenger offer a shared directory with one of your contact. You put a file there, your contact has it.

Does this mean the grown-ups are already entering this market? Is this already the end of those start-ups?

Probably not, but they need to think less of technology (and an easy one to master) and more about which market they want (cf. Groove and its position on collaboration application).

]]> By: Steven http://gigaom.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52488 Steven Wed, 31 May 2006 15:52:52 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52488 <p>peerfactor.fr/send/ looks to use browser as their client and doesn't install nothing.</p> peerfactor.fr/send/
looks to use browser as their client and doesn’t install nothing.

]]> By: Convergence.In http://gigaom.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52487 Convergence.In Wed, 31 May 2006 03:19:26 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52487 <p>I have been using YouSendIt.com for a while now which runs as a web-service. But sometimes I have faced file corruption issues when transferring large files. Torrent is a better way for larger files but it has its own issues. I would prefer that these companies use browser as their client rather than another installable.</p> I have been using YouSendIt.com for a while now which runs as a web-service. But sometimes I have faced file corruption issues when transferring large files. Torrent is a better way for larger files but it has its own issues. I would prefer that these companies use browser as their client rather than another installable.

]]> By: directorblue http://gigaom.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52486 directorblue Wed, 31 May 2006 00:22:20 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52486 <p>badblue.com has been in this space for quite a while as has the Ray Ozzie vehicle (Groove), which was acquired by MSFT. I'm not sure what really happened to Groove since the acquisition. Strangely, it doesn't seem to get nearly as much press attention since it went into the MS Office/collaboration space.</p> badblue.com has been in this space for quite a while as has the Ray Ozzie vehicle (Groove), which was acquired by MSFT. I’m not sure what really happened to Groove since the acquisition. Strangely, it doesn’t seem to get nearly as much press attention since it went into the MS Office/collaboration space.

]]> By: Leo F http://gigaom.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52485 Leo F Tue, 30 May 2006 23:57:53 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52485 <p>Om, there's also Allpeers, which is in closed beta right now. It is a firefox extension, so will (hopefuly) work on all platforms. regards, Leo</p> Om, there’s also Allpeers, which is in closed beta right now. It is a firefox extension, so will (hopefuly) work on all platforms.
regards,
Leo

]]> By: Ken Rossi : CivilNetizen.com http://gigaom.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52484 Ken Rossi : CivilNetizen.com Tue, 30 May 2006 21:28:16 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52484 <p>Hi Om,</p> <p>I work with a company that has built a p2p app on Firefox/Mozilla called Civil Netizen. I normally don't spam anyones comments beyond the url next to my name but seeing that you are covering Pando, I couldn't resist. Check us out, I am sure you won't be disappointed with our philosophy and our application.</p> <p>www.civilnetizen.com</p> <p>The newest versions as we come out of beta will increase our use of torrent style technology.</p> <p>Thanks, Ken</p> Hi Om,

I work with a company that has built a p2p app on Firefox/Mozilla called Civil Netizen. I normally don’t spam anyones comments beyond the url next to my name but seeing that you are covering Pando, I couldn’t resist. Check us out, I am sure you won’t be disappointed with our philosophy and our application.

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The newest versions as we come out of beta will increase our use of torrent style technology.

Thanks,
Ken

]]> By: Ash Maurya http://gigaom.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52483 Ash Maurya Tue, 30 May 2006 21:14:08 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52483 <p>On Microsoft Groove 2007/Vista: The Achilles’ heel of all such collaboration solutions is that they require all participants to be using the same technology. Microsoft has historically been able to achieve this by bundling and giving away stuff for free but now that they actually want to use this as a reason to upgrade, they will face some adoption challenges. Also, we are increasingly living in a non-windows oriented world (I know the numbers are still largely in favor for Microsoft) where the lowest common denominator is no longer windows but the web.</p> On Microsoft Groove 2007/Vista: The Achilles’ heel of all such collaboration solutions is that they require all participants to be using the same technology. Microsoft has historically been able to achieve this by bundling and giving away stuff for free but now that they actually want to use this as a reason to upgrade, they will face some adoption challenges. Also, we are increasingly living in a non-windows oriented world (I know the numbers are still largely in favor for Microsoft) where the lowest common denominator is no longer windows but the web.

]]> By: Mark http://gigaom.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52482 Mark Tue, 30 May 2006 19:14:11 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52482 <p>Om, not sure if you have checked out Microsoft Groove 2007, which will be part of the office suite. We have started testing it at my office and its pretty slick (the beta). It seems like microsoft is jumping on this one.</p> Om, not sure if you have checked out Microsoft Groove 2007, which will be part of the office suite. We have started testing it at my office and its pretty slick (the beta). It seems like microsoft is jumping on this one.

]]> By: Michael Eisenberg http://gigaom.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52481 Michael Eisenberg Tue, 30 May 2006 17:23:53 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52481 <p>what is with all of these companies copying Flickr with the "R" ending without an "e" before it? This is the latest malady from domain name shortages.</p> what is with all of these companies copying Flickr with the “R” ending without an “e” before it? This is the latest malady from domain name shortages.

]]> By: Om Malik http://gigaom.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52480 Om Malik Tue, 30 May 2006 15:18:56 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/05/30/personal-p2p-getting-hot/#comment-52480 <p>fergus</p> <p>i agree 100%. it need some work on the UI but the technology was rocking. i loved it. oh well…</p> fergus

i agree 100%. it need some work on the UI but the technology was rocking. i loved it. oh well…

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