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		<title>By: Karen Hilal</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/05/12/the-skype-after-effect/#comment-51132</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Hilal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bob Dewey,  What is Skype exactly?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/05/12/the-skype-after-effect/#comment-51130</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 16:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;well, if you clearly read between the lines, things don't look for that ipo. vonage has some serious problems going forward. free numbers/ free calling from skype and aol isonly going to create a bother.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, if you clearly read between the lines, things don&#8217;t look for that ipo. vonage has some serious problems going forward. free numbers/ free calling from skype and aol isonly going to create a bother.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/05/12/the-skype-after-effect/#comment-51128</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 16:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What does this trend predict for the future of Vonage shares (or for any voip ipo at this point) when they finally start trading?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;dave&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does this trend predict for the future of Vonage shares (or for any voip ipo at this point) when they finally start trading?</p>
<p>dave</p>
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		<title>By: David Kornahrens</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/05/12/the-skype-after-effect/#comment-51126</link>
		<dc:creator>David Kornahrens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 12:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The problem.  An auction site buy's an Online Chat/Talk program.  What's the world coming to?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It's almost like Jason (kottke.org) buying and releasing a Tax program.  What's the point?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem.  An auction site buy&#8217;s an Online Chat/Talk program.  What&#8217;s the world coming to?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost like Jason (kottke.org) buying and releasing a Tax program.  What&#8217;s the point?</p>
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		<title>By: longman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/05/12/the-skype-after-effect/#comment-51124</link>
		<dc:creator>longman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 08:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Log term, Log term, Log term, Log term, Log term, Log term, Log term, Log term, Log term, Log term, Log term, Log term, Log term, .&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ebay dosn't want another Google in its hands.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Log term, Log term, Log term, Log term, Log term, Log term, Log term, Log term, Log term, Log term, Log term, Log term, Log term, .</p>
<p>Ebay dosn&#8217;t want another Google in its hands.</p>
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		<title>By: Sasha</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/05/12/the-skype-after-effect/#comment-51122</link>
		<dc:creator>Sasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 17:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;"softwareless communication system whereby a user simply has to click a link to establish (an instant) communication attempt."&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Robert, we are in the testing stage for something similar to what you may be describing. If you want an invite email me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;softwareless communication system whereby a user simply has to click a link to establish (an instant) communication attempt.&#8221;</p>
<p>Robert, we are in the testing stage for something similar to what you may be describing. If you want an invite email me.</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/05/12/the-skype-after-effect/#comment-51120</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 06:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Guys,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;excellent comments. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wanted to pose this as a question more than anything else. I think it is interesting that stock initially popped up, maybe because of the Christmas expectations but has been sinking. I did a look at the daily revenues of Skype, which are actually not growing as fast - though the "downloads" are.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i often wonder about the schism in the usage of Skype overseas and in the US, and how this translates into opportunities for eBay in the non-US markets. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;thoughts?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys,</p>
<p>excellent comments. </p>
<p>I wanted to pose this as a question more than anything else. I think it is interesting that stock initially popped up, maybe because of the Christmas expectations but has been sinking. I did a look at the daily revenues of Skype, which are actually not growing as fast - though the &#8220;downloads&#8221; are.</p>
<p>i often wonder about the schism in the usage of Skype overseas and in the US, and how this translates into opportunities for eBay in the non-US markets. </p>
<p>thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Dewey</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/05/12/the-skype-after-effect/#comment-51118</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Dewey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 05:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dave, I thought I was looking at an Alexa traffic image&#8230; Oops, heh&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I thought I was looking at an Alexa traffic image&#8230; Oops, heh</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Dewey</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/05/12/the-skype-after-effect/#comment-51116</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Dewey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 05:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rick&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yes, such a service could be developed using AJAX and Javascript in general&#8230; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Does anyone recall the days of Yahoo Chat which allowed voice communication within the chatbox using only Java? I am on the bandwagon that  85% of people don't want to download software, and the majority don't want to do voice communication - even though that should always be an option.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, such a service could be developed using AJAX and Javascript in general&#8230; </p>
<p>Does anyone recall the days of Yahoo Chat which allowed voice communication within the chatbox using only Java? I am on the bandwagon that  85% of people don&#8217;t want to download software, and the majority don&#8217;t want to do voice communication - even though that should always be an option.</p>
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		<title>By: Raghu</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/05/12/the-skype-after-effect/#comment-51114</link>
		<dc:creator>Raghu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 04:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Remember all that talk/rumors about google showing talk icons in their search results&#8230;I think Ebay fell for it and they wanted to be the first one and they just bought big "useless" gizmo. If I really wanted to do some search talk ( talk related to ads ) I would start with just pure simple IM icons tagged to search results. And only if it works I would upgrade it to Voice. Otherwise there is no point. May be Ebay is going to the "secret" the hardway.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember all that talk/rumors about google showing talk icons in their search results&#8230;I think Ebay fell for it and they wanted to be the first one and they just bought big &#8220;useless&#8221; gizmo. If I really wanted to do some search talk ( talk related to ads ) I would start with just pure simple IM icons tagged to search results. And only if it works I would upgrade it to Voice. Otherwise there is no point. May be Ebay is going to the &#8220;secret&#8221; the hardway.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/05/12/the-skype-after-effect/#comment-51112</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 03:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Robert, I like your idea.  Can this be accomplished by AJAX software.  It has to launch a "software app", but maybe this could be totally web-enabled without installing anything on the person's PC, very similar to web-based e-mail vs an e-mail client like Outlook.  This definitely has some merit.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Surely Google is developing this.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;BTW, Skype is pathetic.  I refuse to install it on my computer anymore.  Everytime I install it, my CPU usage goes nuts.  This happens when I just turn on the computer and don't even use the sorry program over their sorry network.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, I like your idea.  Can this be accomplished by AJAX software.  It has to launch a &#8220;software app&#8221;, but maybe this could be totally web-enabled without installing anything on the person&#8217;s PC, very similar to web-based e-mail vs an e-mail client like Outlook.  This definitely has some merit.</p>
<p>Surely Google is developing this.</p>
<p>BTW, Skype is pathetic.  I refuse to install it on my computer anymore.  Everytime I install it, my CPU usage goes nuts.  This happens when I just turn on the computer and don&#8217;t even use the sorry program over their sorry network.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveMc500Hats</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveMc500Hats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 03:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ricky/Robert: the graph above isn't traffic, and it's not Skype.  it's eBay's stock price. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;for a rough sense of Skype traffic (which has been going up, more than 100% growth in the past year), see here:
  http://tinyurl.com/frl4n&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;while there's a legitimate contention that eBay overpaid for Skype traffic / users, a more detailed what-if analysis would probably entail looking at a) where eBay stock price would be if they hadn't bought Skype, and b) where else could they have spent the money / what else could they have bought, and lastly c) what if they had simply issues a $1-2B dividend to shareholders&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i'd have to say that doing Skype was probably better than doing nothing, and if all they were buying were 30-70M Skype users internationally that were synergistic to eBay and PayPal non-US business, it probably wasn't such a bad deal.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;however, you could argue they might have been more creative with acquisition activity, or that they should simply have returned the excess cash to shareholders in the form of a dividend -- other companies with slowing growth (notably Microsoft) have made this call lately.  however, i'm guessing had they done so they would have immediately signaled to the market a much lower implied multiple.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;a completely different strategy might also be to setup a corporate venture unit, and take $100-250M to invest in eBay-focused startup ventures&#8230; guessing that if you invested in 50-100 startups at around $1-2M each, you might end up with 3-4 Skypes in the mix after a few years.  certainly with everyone focused on Google, Yahoo, and Microsoft this strategy could be helpful in other ways for eBay.  witness Cisco's successful efforts in spinning out / later acquiring related technology startups.  probably a less immediate strategy, but perhaps also less speculative bet than the $2-4B Skype deal.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;in summary i'd still grade the Skype deal as a 'B/B-' with an option on moving to a 'B /A' if the growth turns into the revenue they're looking for in '06/'07 and beyond.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ricky/Robert: the graph above isn&#8217;t traffic, and it&#8217;s not Skype.  it&#8217;s eBay&#8217;s stock price. </p>
<p>for a rough sense of Skype traffic (which has been going up, more than 100% growth in the past year), see here:<br />
   (<a href="http://tinyurl.com/frl4n" rel="nofollow">link</a>) </p>
<p>while there&#8217;s a legitimate contention that eBay overpaid for Skype traffic / users, a more detailed what-if analysis would probably entail looking at a) where eBay stock price would be if they hadn&#8217;t bought Skype, and b) where else could they have spent the money / what else could they have bought, and lastly c) what if they had simply issues a $1-2B dividend to shareholders&#8230;</p>
<p>i&#8217;d have to say that doing Skype was probably better than doing nothing, and if all they were buying were 30-70M Skype users internationally that were synergistic to eBay and PayPal non-US business, it probably wasn&#8217;t such a bad deal.</p>
<p>however, you could argue they might have been more creative with acquisition activity, or that they should simply have returned the excess cash to shareholders in the form of a dividend &#8212; other companies with slowing growth (notably Microsoft) have made this call lately.  however, i&#8217;m guessing had they done so they would have immediately signaled to the market a much lower implied multiple.</p>
<p>a completely different strategy might also be to setup a corporate venture unit, and take $100-250M to invest in eBay-focused startup ventures&#8230; guessing that if you invested in 50-100 startups at around $1-2M each, you might end up with 3-4 Skypes in the mix after a few years.  certainly with everyone focused on Google, Yahoo, and Microsoft this strategy could be helpful in other ways for eBay.  witness Cisco&#8217;s successful efforts in spinning out / later acquiring related technology startups.  probably a less immediate strategy, but perhaps also less speculative bet than the $2-4B Skype deal.</p>
<p>in summary i&#8217;d still grade the Skype deal as a &#8216;B/B-&#8217; with an option on moving to a &#8216;B /A&#8217; if the growth turns into the revenue they&#8217;re looking for in &#8216;06/&#8217;07 and beyond.</p>
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		<title>By: Startups.in</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/05/12/the-skype-after-effect/#comment-51108</link>
		<dc:creator>Startups.in</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 02:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I'm not an analyst but my feeling is that Skype deal was over priced and not worth the 2+ Bil. Not sure when eBay would start seeing the ROI.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Regards,
n&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not an analyst but my feeling is that Skype deal was over priced and not worth the 2+ Bil. Not sure when eBay would start seeing the ROI.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
n</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Dewey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Dewey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 01:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I still think that doing it via software is the wrong solution for reasons I stated above&#8230; I will agree that it's a great idea for classifieds, ads, etc.. While eBay made the right decision, I think they made their decision too quick and picked up the wrong service for the wrong price. Skype was on track to be an AIM-like service, not really a device to help people increase sales, IMO.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think that doing it via software is the wrong solution for reasons I stated above&#8230; I will agree that it&#8217;s a great idea for classifieds, ads, etc.. While eBay made the right decision, I think they made their decision too quick and picked up the wrong service for the wrong price. Skype was on track to be an AIM-like service, not really a device to help people increase sales, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hanger</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/05/12/the-skype-after-effect/#comment-51104</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hanger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 01:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;eBay absolutely has the right idea in how they are re-purposing Skype in order to gain competitive advantage for their classified properties (Motors, Kijiji, Rent).  Moving beyond contact-us forms and phone numbers as response mechanisms is very important.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As relates to the eBay stock price, the question is still whether or not the competitive advantage gained is worth $2.6B minus whatever value the core Skype business had/has.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nonetheless, classified sites that don't respond with a similar or better solution will lose traffic fast IMO.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eBay absolutely has the right idea in how they are re-purposing Skype in order to gain competitive advantage for their classified properties (Motors, Kijiji, Rent).  Moving beyond contact-us forms and phone numbers as response mechanisms is very important.  </p>
<p>As relates to the eBay stock price, the question is still whether or not the competitive advantage gained is worth $2.6B minus whatever value the core Skype business had/has.  </p>
<p>Nonetheless, classified sites that don&#8217;t respond with a similar or better solution will lose traffic fast IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Thompson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/05/12/the-skype-after-effect/#comment-51102</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 01:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you look at the price of eBay over a longer period you'll see it was weakest at the same time last year. In the UK May's a dry time for stocks being the start of the tax year (albeit the December peak was higher), don't know if the IRS cycle is the same.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look at the price of eBay over a longer period you&#8217;ll see it was weakest at the same time last year. In the UK May&#8217;s a dry time for stocks being the start of the tax year (albeit the December peak was higher), don&#8217;t know if the IRS cycle is the same.</p>
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