Comments on: A Dash Of Wallop http://gigaom.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:00:16 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Don Dodge on The Next Big Thing : Wallop - Microsoft Research and serial entrepreneur team to commercialize social networking http://gigaom.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-857060 Don Dodge on The Next Big Thing : Wallop - Microsoft Research and serial entrepreneur team to commercialize social networking Sat, 19 Jan 2008 00:23:33 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-857060 <p>[...] service similar to MySpace and Friendster, originally developed by the Microsoft Research Labs. Om Malik and CNet have stories today about the project and Karl Jacob, the entrepreneur who is bringing [...]</p> [...] service similar to MySpace and Friendster, originally developed by the Microsoft Research Labs. Om Malik and CNet have stories today about the project and Karl Jacob, the entrepreneur who is bringing [...]

]]> By: John Livingston http://gigaom.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-149808 John Livingston Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:59:03 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-149808 <p>>> guarantee that in a year from now you will have >> a new sense of respect for Karl Jacob.</p> <p>OK, it's a year from now. Wallop is moribund. My sense of respect is the same as it was a year ago.</p> <p>Any new predictions?</p> >> guarantee that in a year from now you will have >> a new sense of respect for Karl Jacob.

OK, it’s a year from now. Wallop is moribund. My sense of respect is the same as it was a year ago.

Any new predictions?

]]> By: Dimitar Vesselinov http://gigaom.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47357 Dimitar Vesselinov Wed, 03 May 2006 20:22:28 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47357 <p>"I don’t know if anyone is going to be able to slow down MySpace. Users have much invested and everyone and their brother is on there."</p> <p>Only in the USA. Orkut is huge in Brazil, Friendster has strong positions in South East Asia, openBC is the leader in Europe, Canada-based Plentyoffish.com has over 15 million pageviews a day.</p> <p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orkut http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open<em>Business</em>Club http://2webcrew.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/05/03/2web-crew-8-markus-frind-of-plentyoffishcom/</p> “I don’t know if anyone is going to be able to slow down MySpace. Users have much invested and everyone and their brother is on there.”

Only in the USA. Orkut is huge in Brazil, Friendster has strong positions in South East Asia, openBC is the leader in Europe, Canada-based Plentyoffish.com has over 15 million pageviews a day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orkut http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBusinessClub http://2webcrew.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/05/03/2web-crew-8-markus-frind-of-plentyoffishcom/

]]> By: Craig http://gigaom.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47356 Craig Sun, 30 Apr 2006 00:18:44 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47356 <p>I agree with Don. I don't know if anyone is going to be able to slow down MySpace. Users have much invested and everyone and their brother is on there. The focus now I think is niche networks.</p> I agree with Don. I don’t know if anyone is going to be able to slow down MySpace. Users have much invested and everyone and their brother is on there. The focus now I think is niche networks.

]]> By: Rob Fresh http://gigaom.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47355 Rob Fresh Fri, 28 Apr 2006 20:50:09 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47355 <p>I have a comment about Karl Jacob. He DID found On Ramp in 1992, then founded Dimension X in 1994, then he actually DID found Keen in 1999. Before Jacob, Faber and Vanderlinden were tooling around on Bolt.com and had the idea of a company that later formed into Keen.com. Without Jacob changing the model, bringing in the capital, and starting a company, there would not be a Keen.com, or an Ingenio.com today. Same goes for Cloudmark. Yes, Ritter and Vipul are bright guys but there would not have been a Cloudmark had Jacob not come into the picture and turned the idea into a real business. I think he deserves the title of Founder for all of these companies. In this latest venture Wallop, I think you will all be surprised to see what he has in store and I guarantee that in a year from now you will have a new sense of respect for Karl Jacob.</p> I have a comment about Karl Jacob. He DID found On Ramp in 1992, then founded Dimension X in 1994, then he actually DID found Keen in 1999. Before Jacob, Faber and Vanderlinden were tooling around on Bolt.com and had the idea of a company that later formed into Keen.com. Without Jacob changing the model, bringing in the capital, and starting a company, there would not be a Keen.com, or an Ingenio.com today. Same goes for Cloudmark. Yes, Ritter and Vipul are bright guys but there would not have been a Cloudmark had Jacob not come into the picture and turned the idea into a real business. I think he deserves the title of Founder for all of these companies. In this latest venture Wallop, I think you will all be surprised to see what he has in store and I guarantee that in a year from now you will have a new sense of respect for Karl Jacob.

]]> By: kaveh http://gigaom.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47354 kaveh Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:30:21 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47354 <p>i was an very early user of wallop … quite impressive, but not sure if it's even wants to be a myspace killer? who wants to be another ad pool? we've got enough of those, no?</p> <p>wallop is nice ;)</p> i was an very early user of wallop … quite impressive, but not sure if it’s even wants to be a myspace killer? who wants to be another ad pool? we’ve got enough of those, no?

wallop is nice ;)

]]> By: patrick chassany http://gigaom.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47353 patrick chassany Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:13:58 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47353 <p>Since the 18th, we launched Ziki.com, the first open social network. Give it a try !</p> Since the 18th, we launched Ziki.com, the first open social network. Give it a try !

]]> By: Bernard Moon http://gigaom.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47352 Bernard Moon Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:23:38 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47352 <p>Might as well post my old story from last year on Wallop and Microsoft Research here. Hope you don't mind, Om:</p> <p>Diamonds in the Rough at Redmond http://www.alwayson-network.com/comments.php?id=8473<em>0</em>26<em>0</em>C</p> Might as well post my old story from last year on Wallop and Microsoft Research here. Hope you don’t mind, Om:

Diamonds in the Rough at Redmond http://www.alwayson-network.com/comments.php?id=84730260C

]]> By: Om Malik http://gigaom.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47351 Om Malik Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:02:26 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47351 <p>Mr. Casey,</p> <p>thanks for the correction on Jacob's role at Keen. Sorry about that and regret the error.</p> Mr. Casey,

thanks for the correction on Jacob’s role at Keen. Sorry about that and regret the error.

]]> By: xkeen http://gigaom.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47350 xkeen Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:30:21 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47350 <p>When will companies realize that Karl Jacob is complete poison? He spends virtually all of his time at the helm promoting himself, while fostering a climate of paranoia and powerlessness within.</p> <p>Om, the real story here would be to talk to the actual founders of Ingenio (Faber/Vanderlinden) and Cloudmark (Jordan Ritter/Vipul Prakash) to see just how Jacob operates, including the pathological and completely false insistence in each case that somehow he was a founder (this is central to his concept of self). It would be an interesting study in how a CEO so reviled and damaging manages to skate from high-level position to high-level position.</p> <p>Second largest number next to infinity? The difference between what Karl thinks of himself and his actual talent.</p> When will companies realize that Karl Jacob is complete poison? He spends virtually all of his time at the helm promoting himself, while fostering a climate of paranoia and powerlessness within.

Om, the real story here would be to talk to the actual founders of Ingenio (Faber/Vanderlinden) and Cloudmark (Jordan Ritter/Vipul Prakash) to see just how Jacob operates, including the pathological and completely false insistence in each case that somehow he was a founder (this is central to his concept of self). It would be an interesting study in how a CEO so reviled and damaging manages to skate from high-level position to high-level position.

Second largest number next to infinity? The difference between what Karl thinks of himself and his actual talent.

]]> By: Josh Hyde http://gigaom.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47349 Josh Hyde Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:05:20 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47349 <p>I checked out the homepage if Firefox. The links are really buggy for me, at least. A sign of things to come? We shall see.</p> I checked out the homepage if Firefox. The links are really buggy for me, at least. A sign of things to come? We shall see.

]]> By: Mark Casey http://gigaom.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47348 Mark Casey Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:57:32 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47348 <p>FYI, Karl Jacob did not found or co-found Keen / Ingenio / Ether. Scott Faber came up with the idea and founded this business long before the VCs named Karl CEO.</p> FYI, Karl Jacob did not found or co-found Keen / Ingenio / Ether. Scott Faber came up with the idea and founded this business long before the VCs named Karl CEO.

]]> By: Jeff Carroll http://gigaom.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47347 Jeff Carroll Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:22:29 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47347 <p>I've had a Wallop account for several months now. Definitely not a Myspace killer; not, in fact, even an Orkut killer.</p> <p>At least in its current form. To be perfectly honest, I haven't logged in in long enough that they may have changed some things while I've been gone.</p> I’ve had a Wallop account for several months now. Definitely not a Myspace killer; not, in fact, even an Orkut killer.

At least in its current form. To be perfectly honest, I haven’t logged in in long enough that they may have changed some things while I’ve been gone.

]]> By: Ruben http://gigaom.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47346 Ruben Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:00:25 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47346 <p>I'm not sure any company will 'dent' Myspace's popularity. Do you think users of myspace who have investing themselves into one place will up and move for a better product or a newer product? I don't think so. For Myspace's numbers to decline it would have to ignore users wishes and/or restrict their freedom and Myspace is far from erring on those two fronts.</p> I’m not sure any company will ‘dent’ Myspace’s popularity. Do you think users of myspace who have investing themselves into one place will up and move for a better product or a newer product? I don’t think so. For Myspace’s numbers to decline it would have to ignore users wishes and/or restrict their freedom and Myspace is far from erring on those two fronts.

]]> By: Don Dodge http://gigaom.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47345 Don Dodge Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:39:49 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/04/25/a-dash-of-wallop/#comment-47345 <p>OM, I am quite familiar with the Wallop story and wrote a blog on it today. http://dondodge.typepad.com/the<em>next</em>big<em>thing/2006/04/wallop</em>microsof.html</p> <p>As often happens with research projects, Microsoft decided not to commercialize the Wallop project and instead offered to license the technology. Microsoft has a new group, Microsoft IP Ventures, established to license LOTS of technology developed by the research labs that for one reason or another will not be commercialized. I encourage you to take a look at the long and growing list of technologies available for license from Microsoft Research.</p> OM, I am quite familiar with the Wallop story and wrote a blog on it today. http://dondodge.typepad.com/thenextbigthing/2006/04/wallopmicrosof.html

As often happens with research projects, Microsoft decided not to commercialize the Wallop project and instead offered to license the technology. Microsoft has a new group, Microsoft IP Ventures, established to license LOTS of technology developed by the research labs that for one reason or another will not be commercialized. I encourage you to take a look at the long and growing list of technologies available for license from Microsoft Research.

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