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	<title>Comments on: Alan Meckler versus Jason Calacanis</title>
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		<title>By: Reflexology London</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/04/19/alan-meckler-versus-jason-calacanis/#comment-889151</link>
		<dc:creator>Reflexology London</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The debate on how much money bloggers should get only makes sense in the context of how much content they generate and the quality of it. I know blogs where an article is worth 4$ and some where an article is 10 times that price.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The debate on how much money bloggers should get only makes sense in the context of how much content they generate and the quality of it. I know blogs where an article is worth 4$ and some where an article is 10 times that price.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bare Feet Studios &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Business Value of Blogging, #356</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bare Feet Studios &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Business Value of Blogging, #356</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 06:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] I found this topic over at GigaOM. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I found this topic over at GigaOM. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Wright</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/04/19/alan-meckler-versus-jason-calacanis/#comment-47172</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Abe: Ahhh, that makes sense. We have half a dozen phillipino bloggers, and they were jumping around this month for their pay (300-500$ on the month). Totally makes sense, I guess I hadn&#039;t thought of it that way.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abe: Ahhh, that makes sense. We have half a dozen phillipino bloggers, and they were jumping around this month for their pay (300-500$ on the month). Totally makes sense, I guess I hadn&#8217;t thought of it that way.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Abe Olandres</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/04/19/alan-meckler-versus-jason-calacanis/#comment-47171</link>
		<dc:creator>Abe Olandres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i think it is good to get a non-US perspective on this whole thing as well!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hi Om,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The figure$ that are being debated in this topic is purely from the Western cost of living point-of-view. Compare that to us bloggers here in Asia (specifically Philippines) where the US dollar is more than 50 times the value of the peso.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Graduates here get somewhere between $200-$300 monthly salary and if they&#039;re fortunate, get a raise of $20 per year. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If Jason C. is paying $500 to most of his bloggers (who might spend 2 to 4 hours a day to blog), that&#039;s more than enough to 90% of the working population here. Heck $500 is what our Mayors and Congressmen get each month.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think it is good to get a non-US perspective on this whole thing as well!</p>

<p>Hi Om,</p>

<p>The figure$ that are being debated in this topic is purely from the Western cost of living point-of-view. Compare that to us bloggers here in Asia (specifically Philippines) where the US dollar is more than 50 times the value of the peso.</p>

<p>Graduates here get somewhere between $200-$300 monthly salary and if they&#8217;re fortunate, get a raise of $20 per year. </p>

<p>If Jason C. is paying $500 to most of his bloggers (who might spend 2 to 4 hours a day to blog), that&#8217;s more than enough to 90% of the working population here. Heck $500 is what our Mayors and Congressmen get each month.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: skibare</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/04/19/alan-meckler-versus-jason-calacanis/#comment-47170</link>
		<dc:creator>skibare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 00:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ok, anybody reading my FREE blog has DOUBLED his money TWICE in the last 18 months&#8230;first on OmniVision from $12 to $25 and now with Level3 from $3.30 to $5.22&#8230;I want to get IN on this being paid to run my mouth!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.Voipnuke.com&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, anybody reading my FREE blog has DOUBLED his money TWICE in the last 18 months&#8230;first on OmniVision from $12 to $25 and now with Level3 from $3.30 to $5.22&#8230;I want to get IN on this being paid to run my mouth!</p>

<p><a href="http://www.Voipnuke.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.Voipnuke.com</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Nick Douglas</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/04/19/alan-meckler-versus-jason-calacanis/#comment-47169</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For what it&#039;s worth, Calacanis pays most writers $4 a post.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, Calacanis pays most writers $4 a post.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Wright</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/04/19/alan-meckler-versus-jason-calacanis/#comment-47168</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ps: the biggest soft benefit to me is the networking. That&#039;s far more valuable than any jobs or books or ad revenues. The sheer amount of fun I have every day is what makes blogging a &quot;land of opportunity&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps: the biggest soft benefit to me is the networking. That&#8217;s far more valuable than any jobs or books or ad revenues. The sheer amount of fun I have every day is what makes blogging a &#8220;land of opportunity&#8221;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Wright</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/04/19/alan-meckler-versus-jason-calacanis/#comment-47167</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jeneane: Spot on. My blog landed me a book deal, helped found 3 companies and has landed me half a dozen jobs (and many I turned down). The &quot;soft&quot; benefits are far more lucrative than just the dollar figures.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Om: It&#039;ll be the first conference of its kind in my old city. I am so pumped it&#039;s unbelievable. I&#039;m actually in town almost all month with other related events. Idea swapping is where it&#039;s at, and there are few places that are more fun for idea swapping than the old T-Dot.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeneane: Spot on. My blog landed me a book deal, helped found 3 companies and has landed me half a dozen jobs (and many I turned down). The &#8220;soft&#8221; benefits are far more lucrative than just the dollar figures.</p>

<p>Om: It&#8217;ll be the first conference of its kind in my old city. I am so pumped it&#8217;s unbelievable. I&#8217;m actually in town almost all month with other related events. Idea swapping is where it&#8217;s at, and there are few places that are more fun for idea swapping than the old T-Dot.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jeneane</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/04/19/alan-meckler-versus-jason-calacanis/#comment-47166</link>
		<dc:creator>jeneane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d argue that Alan Meckler has been trying to blog for a couple of years now, and he still doesn&#039;t know how to do it. His posts are little more more than summations from on high, with all the personality of a bic pen.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d argue that Doc Searls said it best recently when he recapped, &quot;you don&#039;t make money with your blog, you make money because of it.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sure, there&#039;s the ad revenue, and that&#039;s nice, but the amazing thinking, creativity, and writing flowing across so many good blogs -- and the links and professional networks developing through those things -- hold even more promise than sidebar shout-outs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d blog whether I was making money because of it or not--and I wasn&#039;t making money blogging back when I started. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Would Alan Meckler be blogging if it wasn&#039;t tied to money? Doubt it. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s the rub, isn&#039;t it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d argue that Alan Meckler has been trying to blog for a couple of years now, and he still doesn&#8217;t know how to do it. His posts are little more more than summations from on high, with all the personality of a bic pen.</p>

<p>I&#8217;d argue that Doc Searls said it best recently when he recapped, &#8220;you don&#8217;t make money with your blog, you make money because of it.&#8221;</p>

<p>Sure, there&#8217;s the ad revenue, and that&#8217;s nice, but the amazing thinking, creativity, and writing flowing across so many good blogs &#8212; and the links and professional networks developing through those things &#8212; hold even more promise than sidebar shout-outs.</p>

<p>I&#8217;d blog whether I was making money because of it or not&#8211;and I wasn&#8217;t making money blogging back when I started. </p>

<p>Would Alan Meckler be blogging if it wasn&#8217;t tied to money? Doubt it. </p>

<p>That&#8217;s the rub, isn&#8217;t it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/04/19/alan-meckler-versus-jason-calacanis/#comment-47165</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jason, &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;sometime you say really pithy smart things on other people&#039;s blogs. for that I am pretty grateful. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i agree, more options for writers is a good thing, and not a bad thing. i hope we can sift and find real gems. take for instance dave zatz, who is smart and informed. blogging got us guys like zatz. and nothing wrong with that &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;:-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, </p>

<p>sometime you say really pithy smart things on other people&#8217;s blogs. for that I am pretty grateful. </p>

<p>i agree, more options for writers is a good thing, and not a bad thing. i hope we can sift and find real gems. take for instance dave zatz, who is smart and informed. blogging got us guys like zatz. and nothing wrong with that </p>

<p>:-)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/04/19/alan-meckler-versus-jason-calacanis/#comment-47164</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jeremy &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i am looking forward to seeing you at the MESH as well. it will be ton of fun. hopefully we can swap ideas at that point. i think it is good to get a non-US perspective on this whole thing as well!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy </p>

<p>i am looking forward to seeing you at the MESH as well. it will be ton of fun. hopefully we can swap ideas at that point. i think it is good to get a non-US perspective on this whole thing as well!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Wright</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/04/19/alan-meckler-versus-jason-calacanis/#comment-47163</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;By the way, Om, see you in a few weeks at Mesh! Really looking forward to your session. Willy you be at the speaker&#039;s pre-conference bit on Monday night?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, Om, see you in a few weeks at Mesh! Really looking forward to your session. Willy you be at the speaker&#8217;s pre-conference bit on Monday night?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Wright</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/04/19/alan-meckler-versus-jason-calacanis/#comment-47162</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d argue that a properly done blog should be like a really good, ultra niche magazine: high quality content, news, reviews, tips, photos, conference reports, etc. And that such a blog can easily pay the author a living. I know hundreds of bloggers doing just that, outside of networks, and with far less pages than Jason&#039;s talking about.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hell, I know bloggers making 500K  on blogging full-time. And we have a number of bloggers approaching 2K/month blogging just 4 hours a day.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We&#039;re not yet, as an industry (blog networks) hitting 1$/word. But we will. The industry, such as it is, is less than 2 years old. Hitting 10c/word as an average after 2 years (which we&#039;re doing) is pretty damned good. Not good enough to hire star writers with, but good enough as a first step.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d argue that a properly done blog should be like a really good, ultra niche magazine: high quality content, news, reviews, tips, photos, conference reports, etc. And that such a blog can easily pay the author a living. I know hundreds of bloggers doing just that, outside of networks, and with far less pages than Jason&#8217;s talking about.</p>

<p>Hell, I know bloggers making 500K  on blogging full-time. And we have a number of bloggers approaching 2K/month blogging just 4 hours a day.</p>

<p>We&#8217;re not yet, as an industry (blog networks) hitting 1$/word. But we will. The industry, such as it is, is less than 2 years old. Hitting 10c/word as an average after 2 years (which we&#8217;re doing) is pretty damned good. Not good enough to hire star writers with, but good enough as a first step.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you&#039;re a writer you don&#039;t do it to make money&#8230; I never have. However, if you work hard and create a brand you can make money. GigaOm, boingboing.net, and PaidContent.org are the perfect examples&#8230; they&#039;ve become real brands and they could sell for real money at some point. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The same is true for directors&#8230; you can spend your money and make an indie film and hope it becomes something huge, or you can sell your idea to a studio and have them mess with it. If you go with a studio you give up control but it&#039;s not your money. If you do the indiefilm it&#039;s your money and you are in control. Different models for different people at different points in their lives. Some writers/directors want to get a check every two weeks and sleep at night, some artists want to risk it all and wake up in a cold sweat at night wondering about the bills and deadlines.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The blogosphere is just another set of options for writers&#8230; now they can work for &quot;the man&quot; (WSJ, NYT, B2.0), themselves (with the support of Adsense, AdBrite, Battelle&#039;s thing), or a boutique studio (i.e. Gawker, WIN). &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;More options for the artists is always a good thing.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re a writer you don&#8217;t do it to make money&#8230; I never have. However, if you work hard and create a brand you can make money. GigaOm, boingboing.net, and PaidContent.org are the perfect examples&#8230; they&#8217;ve become real brands and they could sell for real money at some point. </p>

<p>The same is true for directors&#8230; you can spend your money and make an indie film and hope it becomes something huge, or you can sell your idea to a studio and have them mess with it. If you go with a studio you give up control but it&#8217;s not your money. If you do the indiefilm it&#8217;s your money and you are in control. Different models for different people at different points in their lives. Some writers/directors want to get a check every two weeks and sleep at night, some artists want to risk it all and wake up in a cold sweat at night wondering about the bills and deadlines.</p>

<p>The blogosphere is just another set of options for writers&#8230; now they can work for &#8220;the man&#8221; (WSJ, NYT, B2.0), themselves (with the support of Adsense, AdBrite, Battelle&#8217;s thing), or a boutique studio (i.e. Gawker, WIN). </p>

<p>More options for the artists is always a good thing.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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