Comments on: Un-Origami http://gigaom.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:35:15 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Merchantprince http://gigaom.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45766 Merchantprince Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:39:59 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45766 <p>The last two weeks, both the behavior of the tech blogs and the producers of technology products, have been very interesting indeed. I would argue that it is evidence of the birth of American Otaku. I could go on bit you can check out my most recent journal entry at www.patricklanders.com. I think we will have a lot of fun times ahead as the electronincs producers attempt to sate the demands of the otaku.</p> The last two weeks, both the behavior of the tech blogs and the producers of technology products, have been very interesting indeed. I would argue that it is evidence of the birth of American Otaku. I could go on bit you can check out my most recent journal entry at http://www.patricklanders.com. I think we will have a lot of fun times ahead as the electronincs producers attempt to sate the demands of the otaku.

]]> By: Poopmaster http://gigaom.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45765 Poopmaster Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:52:49 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45765 <p>Let me know when Microsoft manages to produce something that puts the user experience first. I don't see anything in Origami that suggests that they've found a clue about making devices that people want. It runs Windows XP. Well isn't <em>that</em> a great use of computing resources? Maybe it'll have a fan attached and come with 1 Gb of memory. I can just see it now -- a row of subway denizens all huddled over clicking and cursing as their Origamis bluescreen. That's as much progress as three different trucks coming to pick up your trash!</p> Let me know when Microsoft manages to produce something that puts the user experience first. I don’t see anything in Origami that suggests that they’ve found a clue about making devices that people want. It runs Windows XP. Well isn’t that a great use of computing resources? Maybe it’ll have a fan attached and come with 1 Gb of memory. I can just see it now — a row of subway denizens all huddled over clicking and cursing as their Origamis bluescreen. That’s as much progress as three different trucks coming to pick up your trash!

]]> By: Toy Man http://gigaom.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45764 Toy Man Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:40:23 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45764 <p>This is exactly the type/size of device I have been looking for. I expect to be an early purchaser. The size/power/capabilities are perfect for my requirements. YMMV</p> This is exactly the type/size of device I have been looking for. I expect to be an early purchaser. The size/power/capabilities are perfect for my requirements. YMMV

]]> By: A Lahiri http://gigaom.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45763 A Lahiri Fri, 10 Mar 2006 06:45:32 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45763 <p>I still think that the begining of the end has started for Mr M. http://beerandkabab.blogspot.com/</p> I still think that the begining of the end has started for Mr M. http://beerandkabab.blogspot.com/

]]> By: A Lahiri http://gigaom.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45762 A Lahiri Fri, 10 Mar 2006 06:39:35 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45762 <p>I still think that the begining of the end has started for Mr M.</p> I still think that the begining of the end has started for Mr M.

]]> By: moo http://gigaom.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45761 moo Fri, 10 Mar 2006 04:37:31 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45761 <p>I thought Gartenberg's review was extremely biased. He addressed none of the real issues that Om is talking about. I can understand Scoble's enthusiasm but the Jup analyst could have done a more thorough job. Om, will it be possible to post a comparison between UMPC, 770, PSP and iPod video.</p> I thought Gartenberg’s review was extremely biased. He addressed none of the real issues that Om is talking about. I can understand Scoble’s enthusiasm but the Jup analyst could have done a more thorough job. Om, will it be possible to post a comparison between UMPC, 770, PSP and iPod video.

]]> By: Marcus http://gigaom.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45760 Marcus Fri, 10 Mar 2006 03:05:27 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45760 <p>I think you are completely missing the point of this device, it isn't supposed to be an iPod killer or anything of the sort. This looks a lot like the next gen of LS800 (from motion computing) or other ultra light tablets and is supposed to replace your laptop. Most people who travel extensively and have to carry their laptop suffer because it is bulky and heavy. This will let them do everything they do with their laptop be considerably more portable and cheaper than ultra light laptops… I agree battery life is still a bit low and the current design looks horrible but I'd still buy one when it hits the market, if only to alleviate my back aches for a reasonable price.</p> I think you are completely missing the point of this device, it isn’t supposed to be an iPod killer or anything of the sort. This looks a lot like the next gen of LS800 (from motion computing) or other ultra light tablets and is supposed to replace your laptop. Most people who travel extensively and have to carry their laptop suffer because it is bulky and heavy. This will let them do everything they do with their laptop be considerably more portable and cheaper than ultra light laptops… I agree battery life is still a bit low and the current design looks horrible but I’d still buy one when it hits the market, if only to alleviate my back aches for a reasonable price.

]]> By: mark http://gigaom.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45759 mark Fri, 10 Mar 2006 02:17:45 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45759 <p>Since I think Origami was pushed out 9-12 months too early - technology not ready or cheap enough, UI not ready - I was surprised by Gartenberg's response to Origami, because he's usually much more circumspect about MS and right on about lots of stuff. Hey, he was even positive about Apple's "medium-scale" event because of Front Row with Bonjour including video. It makes me think I'm missing something about Origami. But what is it that I'm missing?</p> Since I think Origami was pushed out 9-12 months too early – technology not ready or cheap enough, UI not ready – I was surprised by Gartenberg’s response to Origami, because he’s usually much more circumspect about MS and right on about lots of stuff. Hey, he was even positive about Apple’s “medium-scale” event because of Front Row with Bonjour including video. It makes me think I’m missing something about Origami. But what is it that I’m missing?

]]> By: Frank Daley http://gigaom.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45758 Frank Daley Thu, 09 Mar 2006 23:50:30 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45758 <p>The Nokia 770 has already hit the sweet spot for such devices.</p> <p>It's at the right price point < $400.</p> <p>It's light.</p> <p>It's already shipping and selling way beyond Nokia's projections.</p> <p>By the time Microsoft partners start selling Origami things, Nokia will already be out with an updated 770.</p> The Nokia 770 has already hit the sweet spot for such devices.

It’s at the right price point < $400.

It’s light.

It’s already shipping and selling way beyond Nokia’s projections.

By the time Microsoft partners start selling Origami things, Nokia will already be out with an updated 770.

]]> By: Petabro http://gigaom.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45757 Petabro Thu, 09 Mar 2006 21:32:19 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45757 <p>I wonder how much Microsoft pays Jupiter - Michael Gartenberg's employer.</p> I wonder how much Microsoft pays Jupiter – Michael Gartenberg’s employer.

]]> By: James Little http://gigaom.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45756 James Little Thu, 09 Mar 2006 21:22:48 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45756 <p>Actually, the Xbox 360 does inherit the Windows legacy. It's running a verison of the NT kernel.</p> Actually, the Xbox 360 does inherit the Windows legacy. It’s running a verison of the NT kernel.

]]> By: mark http://gigaom.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45755 mark Thu, 09 Mar 2006 21:21:33 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45755 <p>kaveh,</p> <p>I give MS lots of credit for innovating and trying, but they keep messing it up by doing half the job. They did this with Tablet PCs and Portable Media Centers, and they've done it again. They seem to not understand the market and the mainstream users' use cases.</p> <p>There is a huge gap between pocketable and mobile. If the device is pocketable (cell, pdas, mp3 players), people accept limited but well-done functions, want at least 10 hours of battery life, and costs $400-500 or less. If it is mobile, people will compare it against laptops, where you get full functionality, about 4 hours of battery life, and costs $600 and up. The laptop market is much smaller than pocketable. Too big to be pocketable, UMPCs will be compared against laptops, and the differences today are just not dramatic. But MS seems happy to push this product out today with 2-3 hr battery life and closer to $1000 cost.</p> <p>If MS had a good grip of market needs and wants, it might've chose to wait for tech to be ready or cheaper, so that it could use Core Solo, Windows Vista, low-power 802.11n, 1" hard drives or NAND flash, etc. Then it might've had a blockbuster product on introduction when compared to laptops or pocketables. Instead today, people are shrugging and saying wait for v2 or v3. Certainly, no one can conceive of how this "changes your life". So it just looks like technology for technology's sake, and only the gadget geeks buy that. </p> <p>I wonder if someone could dig out the story of why Dell, HP, Gateway, Fujitsu, Acer, etc, are not even involved.</p> kaveh,

I give MS lots of credit for innovating and trying, but they keep messing it up by doing half the job. They did this with Tablet PCs and Portable Media Centers, and they’ve done it again. They seem to not understand the market and the mainstream users’ use cases.

There is a huge gap between pocketable and mobile. If the device is pocketable (cell, pdas, mp3 players), people accept limited but well-done functions, want at least 10 hours of battery life, and costs $400-500 or less. If it is mobile, people will compare it against laptops, where you get full functionality, about 4 hours of battery life, and costs $600 and up. The laptop market is much smaller than pocketable. Too big to be pocketable, UMPCs will be compared against laptops, and the differences today are just not dramatic. But MS seems happy to push this product out today with 2-3 hr battery life and closer to $1000 cost.

If MS had a good grip of market needs and wants, it might’ve chose to wait for tech to be ready or cheaper, so that it could use Core Solo, Windows Vista, low-power 802.11n, 1″ hard drives or NAND flash, etc. Then it might’ve had a blockbuster product on introduction when compared to laptops or pocketables. Instead today, people are shrugging and saying wait for v2 or v3. Certainly, no one can conceive of how this “changes your life”. So it just looks like technology for technology’s sake, and only the gadget geeks buy that.

I wonder if someone could dig out the story of why Dell, HP, Gateway, Fujitsu, Acer, etc, are not even involved.

]]> By: Om Malik http://gigaom.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45754 Om Malik Thu, 09 Mar 2006 21:12:41 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45754 <p>i love psp for one reason: mlb baseball.</p> i love psp for one reason: mlb baseball.

]]> By: D http://gigaom.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45753 D Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:51:13 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45753 <p>me reads this on my vx6600, kinda slow, but does the job. when is some EVDO provider (c'mon Sprint i really wanna switch to ya if only i can hear you now) gonna come out with a faster 5.0 w/ as much screen real estate as my puppy here? it's almost been a year and i'm itching to upgrade</p> me reads this on my vx6600, kinda slow, but does the job. when is some EVDO provider (c’mon Sprint i really wanna switch to ya if only i can hear you now) gonna come out with a faster 5.0 w/ as much screen real estate as my puppy here? it’s almost been a year and i’m itching to upgrade

]]> By: Chuka http://gigaom.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45752 Chuka Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:44:48 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45752 <p>Om, I agree. Microsofts device is priced a bit to high. I heard CBS or NBC's news report yesterday that said that Microsoft found that soccer moms who had a couple minutes to spare in between soccer practices and other chores loved the device. So maybe thats microsofts real target market. </p> <p>Sony ready miss an opportunity. They have really got to let go of their walled garden thinking. With a larger hard drive and some UI improvements the PSP would be the must have device. Hopefully Sony will ignore their RIAA hugging half and improve on a decent device.</p> Om, I agree. Microsofts device is priced a bit to high. I heard CBS or NBC’s news report yesterday that said that Microsoft found that soccer moms who had a couple minutes to spare in between soccer practices and other chores loved the device. So maybe thats microsofts real target market.

Sony ready miss an opportunity. They have really got to let go of their walled garden thinking. With a larger hard drive and some UI improvements the PSP would be the must have device. Hopefully Sony will ignore their RIAA hugging half and improve on a decent device.

]]> By: aye http://gigaom.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45751 aye Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:39:07 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/03/09/un-origami/#comment-45751 <p>Why do you love the PSP but think this is a dud? Price? That's because the PSP is subsidized. But imagine if this was subsidized by a carrier and you could pick it up for 200-300 dollars and a data plan?</p> Why do you love the PSP but think this is a dud? Price? That’s because the PSP is subsidized. But imagine if this was subsidized by a carrier and you could pick it up for 200-300 dollars and a data plan?

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