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	<description>Tracking the Internet Evolution</description>
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		<title>By: LSU_guy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/03/02/next-net-25-roundtable/#comment-45503</link>
		<dc:creator>LSU_guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Still no report from Om&#8230;are you slacking om?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Can we have this meeting with more women and me? :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still no report from Om&#8230;are you slacking om?</p>
<p>Can we have this meeting with more women and me? :)</p>
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		<title>By: Tara 'Miss Rogue' Hunt</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/03/02/next-net-25-roundtable/#comment-45502</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara 'Miss Rogue' Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 18:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LOL. I saw this in my bloglines and clicked through to comment something like: "Whoah, turn down the white balance!"&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&#8230;but some commenters already beat me to it. And yes, the barren wasteland of women there is obvious (and I looked reeeeally hard). Sigh&#8230;I mean, at least throw in the 'token' girl like the other top lists always do. Gee whiz!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;;)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. I saw this in my bloglines and clicked through to comment something like: &#8220;Whoah, turn down the white balance!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;but some commenters already beat me to it. And yes, the barren wasteland of women there is obvious (and I looked reeeeally hard). Sigh&#8230;I mean, at least throw in the &#8216;token&#8217; girl like the other top lists always do. Gee whiz!</p>
<p>;)</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/03/02/next-net-25-roundtable/#comment-45501</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 16:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Where's that full report you promised, Om?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s that full report you promised, Om?</p>
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		<title>By: chy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/03/02/next-net-25-roundtable/#comment-45500</link>
		<dc:creator>chy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 05:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;or at least the pollcles of business so om&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or at least the pollcles of business so om</p>
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		<title>By: JG</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/03/02/next-net-25-roundtable/#comment-45499</link>
		<dc:creator>JG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;"Yep.. the tech industry is predominantly white males.."&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;WRONG. I'm so sick of this thinking. It's not that it's predominantly white males, it's that it's predominantly "dominated" by white males. And that has less to do with talent than will culture and closed social networks. You are just as likely to speak to a non-white tech support person (and I don't mean an outsourced worker) who is "of-color" than one who is white. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This trend also happens in media. &lt;a href="http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:gU3ANwzIVf4J:mediachannel.org/blog/node/2809 The New York Observer vanilla ceiling &#38;hl=en&#38;gl=us&#38;ct=clnk&#38;cd=5&#38;client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow"&gt;The New York Observer recently did a story&lt;/a&gt; about how in New York (the media capital) 90% of the jobs are held by white people, even though we're talking about New York City (barely 50% white), the most diverse city in the country. Nevertheless, many media people hold on to this lie that "oh, well, I guess they just don't go for these jobs, and that's why it's mostly white." Wrong. As the article points out, people of color in media are mostly steered, against they wishes, to the "urban" magazines. In the tech world, the same thing happens in a different way. A lot of the people of color are steered to the "back rooms" (i.e. tech support, customer service, etc.). And please don't tell us about Richard Parsons, he is not reflective of what's going on in general.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The fact that in 2006, a picture about the tech business (an industry with a HUGE amount of non-white people working hard) shows a picture with 99% white guys speaks volumes about the business culture of America. Or at least the editorial policies of Business 2.0. So Om, did they just put you in that picture to add some color? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And yeah, where the hell are the women????!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yep.. the tech industry is predominantly white males..&#8221;</p>
<p>WRONG. I&#8217;m so sick of this thinking. It&#8217;s not that it&#8217;s predominantly white males, it&#8217;s that it&#8217;s predominantly &#8220;dominated&#8221; by white males. And that has less to do with talent than will culture and closed social networks. You are just as likely to speak to a non-white tech support person (and I don&#8217;t mean an outsourced worker) who is &#8220;of-color&#8221; than one who is white. </p>
<p>This trend also happens in media. <a href="http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:gU3ANwzIVf4J:mediachannel.org/blog/node/2809 The New York Observer vanilla ceiling &amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=5&amp;client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow">The New York Observer recently did a story</a> about how in New York (the media capital) 90% of the jobs are held by white people, even though we&#8217;re talking about New York City (barely 50% white), the most diverse city in the country. Nevertheless, many media people hold on to this lie that &#8220;oh, well, I guess they just don&#8217;t go for these jobs, and that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s mostly white.&#8221; Wrong. As the article points out, people of color in media are mostly steered, against they wishes, to the &#8220;urban&#8221; magazines. In the tech world, the same thing happens in a different way. A lot of the people of color are steered to the &#8220;back rooms&#8221; (i.e. tech support, customer service, etc.). And please don&#8217;t tell us about Richard Parsons, he is not reflective of what&#8217;s going on in general.</p>
<p>The fact that in 2006, a picture about the tech business (an industry with a HUGE amount of non-white people working hard) shows a picture with 99% white guys speaks volumes about the business culture of America. Or at least the editorial policies of Business 2.0. So Om, did they just put you in that picture to add some color? </p>
<p>And yeah, where the hell are the women????!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: EV</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/03/02/next-net-25-roundtable/#comment-45498</link>
		<dc:creator>EV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Animal House&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Saul Weiner</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/03/02/next-net-25-roundtable/#comment-45497</link>
		<dc:creator>Saul Weiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 16:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Feels like the Paris Club of lenders&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/03/02/next-net-25-roundtable/#comment-45496</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 16:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You know, as soon as I read the last issue of B2.0, I was instantly annoyed that yet another stupid terms like "Next Net" has to be created.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, as soon as I read the last issue of B2.0, I was instantly annoyed that yet another stupid terms like &#8220;Next Net&#8221; has to be created.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/03/02/next-net-25-roundtable/#comment-45495</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 14:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yep.. the tech industry is predominantly white males..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 13:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;wow - what strikes me is that it's almost all white males&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow - what strikes me is that it&#8217;s almost all white males</p>
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		<title>By: Dave McClure</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/03/02/next-net-25-roundtable/#comment-45493</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave McClure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 10:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;a few other photos from the conversation are here:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/500hats/sets/72057594073894588/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;and &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/nextnet25/interesting/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;great set of folks, great discussion :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;dave mcclure
www.SimplyHired.com&lt;/li&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a few other photos from the conversation are here:<br />
  <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/500hats/sets/72057594073894588/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/500hats/sets/72057594073894588/</a></p>
<p>and </p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/nextnet25/interesting/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/nextnet25/interesting/</a></p>
<p>great set of folks, great discussion :)</p>
<ul>
<li>dave mcclure<br />
<a href="http://www.SimplyHired.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.SimplyHired.com</a></li>
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