Comments on: Slingbox Hating Has Begun http://gigaom.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/ The Business of Technology Sat, 22 Nov 2008 03:08:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Sling Scores A Touchdown With NFL/DirectTV « NewTeeVee http://gigaom.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-570372 Sling Scores A Touchdown With NFL/DirectTV « NewTeeVee Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:00:42 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-570372 <p>[...] has been confirmed by a company spokesperson. Hopefully other sports leagues and service providers will follow in DirecTV’s [...]</p> [...] has been confirmed by a company spokesperson. Hopefully other sports leagues and service providers will follow in DirecTV’s [...]

]]> By: ramlin http://gigaom.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44431 ramlin Fri, 03 Mar 2006 00:33:34 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44431 <p>Most ISP's have an upload limit. Won't this device cause a huge spike in your upload activity. At 500kbs streaming video would use most of my upload room, and add up to a gig every 2000 seconds. That would only give you about 600 minutes of video a month, or about 20 minutes a day to stay under a 20 gig limit.</p> Most ISP’s have an upload limit. Won’t this device cause a huge spike in your upload activity. At 500kbs streaming video would use most of my upload room, and add up to a gig every 2000 seconds. That would only give you about 600 minutes of video a month, or about 20 minutes a day to stay under a 20 gig limit.

]]> By: Rickster » Om Malik on Slingbox Hating http://gigaom.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44430 Rickster » Om Malik on Slingbox Hating Tue, 07 Feb 2006 02:02:01 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44430 <p>[...] Om’s got a good discussion going on the latest incarnation of the company-A hates technology-B story. Slingbox! Yep, a certain broadcasting president is shooting off about the Slingbox and how it violates broadcast transmission laws, and/or program copyright laws. You know, I get tired of all these companies going off on technologies that push them to inovate. I mean, is it that bad to come up with new products to offer to the public? Is it that scary to have to change (dumb question I know)? I have to continually change and adapt in my career (I’m in IT). Every day is a new opportunity to learn and grow. Some days are hard to find the inspiration, I know, but just for once I would like to see a company applaud a technology that makes them think harder - makes them find a new inspiration to push themselves to develop new technologies to put them on top and bring another new level to our lives. [...]</p> [...] Om’s got a good discussion going on the latest incarnation of the company-A hates technology-B story. Slingbox! Yep, a certain broadcasting president is shooting off about the Slingbox and how it violates broadcast transmission laws, and/or program copyright laws. You know, I get tired of all these companies going off on technologies that push them to inovate. I mean, is it that bad to come up with new products to offer to the public? Is it that scary to have to change (dumb question I know)? I have to continually change and adapt in my career (I’m in IT). Every day is a new opportunity to learn and grow. Some days are hard to find the inspiration, I know, but just for once I would like to see a company applaud a technology that makes them think harder - makes them find a new inspiration to push themselves to develop new technologies to put them on top and bring another new level to our lives. [...]

]]> By: Rick Mahn http://gigaom.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44429 Rick Mahn Tue, 07 Feb 2006 01:47:03 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44429 <p>The root of the problem is that the current laws on the books never anticipated the technologies we enjoy today. I'm all for every company recieving the full revenue from their products. What bothers me is when large powerful companies attempt to leverage the power of outdated governmental laws & regulations when both the laws need to change, and the company needs to investigate new business opportunities and models. As technology changes, businesses & government need to adapt, not users & consumers!</p> <p>Fine, if they want to take away my ability to enjoy the product/service they offer - then I don't want their product/service. After all, I'm not that enamored with the quality anyway.</p> The root of the problem is that the current laws on the books never anticipated the technologies we enjoy today. I’m all for every company recieving the full revenue from their products. What bothers me is when large powerful companies attempt to leverage the power of outdated governmental laws & regulations when both the laws need to change, and the company needs to investigate new business opportunities and models. As technology changes, businesses & government need to adapt, not users & consumers!

Fine, if they want to take away my ability to enjoy the product/service they offer - then I don’t want their product/service. After all, I’m not that enamored with the quality anyway.

]]> By: Dave http://gigaom.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44428 Dave Tue, 07 Feb 2006 00:57:38 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44428 <p>Agree or disagree with his thesis, saying Jim Goodmon "has limited thinking powers" is to not know the man. Not only has Jim amassed quite a fortune running Capital Broadcasting, one of the most valuable broadcasters in the nation, CBC is well-known for being literally first in a number of fields -- first HDTV broadcaster, first online local news site, etc. I'd trade brains with him any day of the week!</p> Agree or disagree with his thesis, saying Jim Goodmon “has limited thinking powers” is to not know the man. Not only has Jim amassed quite a fortune running Capital Broadcasting, one of the most valuable broadcasters in the nation, CBC is well-known for being literally first in a number of fields — first HDTV broadcaster, first online local news site, etc. I’d trade brains with him any day of the week!

]]> By: Erik http://gigaom.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44427 Erik Mon, 06 Feb 2006 21:58:50 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44427 <p>It's not an issue of illegal or legal, the issue is, does the contract <i>that the subscriber has signed</i> permit the activity. This is a matter of contract law, not copyright law.</p> <p>I think where all of this starts to get sticky and there will be pushback is in the realm of premium sports packages which have very strict zip code based blackouts based on the networks contracts with the professional leagues.</p> It’s not an issue of illegal or legal, the issue is, does the contract that the subscriber has signed permit the activity. This is a matter of contract law, not copyright law.

I think where all of this starts to get sticky and there will be pushback is in the realm of premium sports packages which have very strict zip code based blackouts based on the networks contracts with the professional leagues.

]]> By: Jesse Kopelman http://gigaom.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44426 Jesse Kopelman Mon, 06 Feb 2006 21:06:26 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44426 <p>I think you're wrong Om. The Law is definitely against Slingbox. The Law is also definitely wrong. Hopefully, if the two colide it will be the Law that has to change.</p> I think you’re wrong Om. The Law is definitely against Slingbox. The Law is also definitely wrong. Hopefully, if the two colide it will be the Law that has to change.

]]> By: Tvtogo http://gigaom.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44425 Tvtogo Mon, 06 Feb 2006 19:06:11 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44425 <p>What about new product from Monsoon Multimedia Inc. Hava box formally announced their "video placeshift" product. Even though it was demonstrated it at CES this year.</p> <p>http://www.cnet.com/4831-11405_1-6414329.html</p> <p>In their Press Release Monsoon takes a direct swipe at Slingbox.</p> <p>"Unlike other competing products such as the Slingbox™, HAVA does not require a wired connection to the router. HAVA substantially differentiates itself from other competitive products, by allowing users to watch video while being able to browse the internet or print, without having to relocate their Access point or changing their network. Moreover, HAVA is able to utilize its MPEG-2 streams to convert any PC or notebook with Media Center compatible software into a full Media Center PC, without having to add an additional TV Tuner, remote, IR Blaster etc. typically required for a complete Media Center experience"</p> What about new product from Monsoon Multimedia Inc. Hava box formally announced their “video placeshift” product.
Even though it was demonstrated it at CES this year.

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In their Press Release Monsoon takes a direct swipe at Slingbox.

“Unlike other competing products such as the Slingbox™, HAVA does not require a wired connection to the router. HAVA substantially differentiates itself from other competitive products, by allowing users to watch video while being able to browse the internet or print, without having to relocate their Access point or changing their network. Moreover, HAVA is able to utilize its MPEG-2 streams to convert any PC or notebook with Media Center compatible software into a full Media Center PC, without having to add an additional TV Tuner, remote, IR Blaster etc. typically required for a complete Media Center experience”

]]> By: Jeremy http://gigaom.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44424 Jeremy Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:17:20 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44424 <p>thats just like saying that in my family, my dad pays for our cable, so he should be the only one allowed to watch it.</p> thats just like saying that in my family, my dad pays for our cable, so he should be the only one allowed to watch it.

]]> By: Mike http://gigaom.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44423 Mike Mon, 06 Feb 2006 17:55:28 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44423 <p>Slingbox was very careful to only allow "slinging" of the television content to a single user. In my book that is hardly a retransmission.</p> Slingbox was very careful to only allow “slinging” of the television content to a single user. In my book that is hardly a retransmission.

]]> By: Om Malik http://gigaom.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44422 Om Malik Mon, 06 Feb 2006 17:29:49 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44422 <p>i am with you guys. this is one-to-one bouncing of television signal which we pay for. instead of watching it in the living room, we do it over the internet on our computer. no i am quite sure this one will stand up in the court of law. there is a lot of copy right protection built into the system.</p> i am with you guys. this is one-to-one bouncing of television signal which we pay for. instead of watching it in the living room, we do it over the internet on our computer. no i am quite sure this one will stand up in the court of law. there is a lot of copy right protection built into the system.

]]> By: Jeremy http://gigaom.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44421 Jeremy Mon, 06 Feb 2006 17:21:22 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44421 <p>i pay for it so why cant i watch it where i want when i want? its not as if you can have multiple users watching the same feed.</p> i pay for it so why cant i watch it where i want when i want? its not as if you can have multiple users watching the same feed.

]]> By: Rob Poitras http://gigaom.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44420 Rob Poitras Mon, 06 Feb 2006 16:58:56 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44420 <p>Even if it is illegal I cant think of a way for anyone to track if someone is using slingbox. It's not like they are downloading a file from a file sharing site.</p> Even if it is illegal I cant think of a way for anyone to track if someone is using slingbox. It’s not like they are downloading a file from a file sharing site.

]]> By: Erik http://gigaom.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44419 Erik Mon, 06 Feb 2006 16:41:02 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/02/06/slingbox-hating-has-begun/#comment-44419 <p>If you read the TOS of the various cable and satellite services it is clear that Slingbox puts the user in violation of the contract they signed with their provider. Furthermore, its use probably puts the cable/satellite operator in violation of the contracts they signed with their content providers. "Illegal" is the wrong word, but "breach of contract" is demonstrably accurate.</p> <p>Now whether these TOS make sense in a modern world is a different discussion (I suspect we agree that the current TOS are obsolete).</p> If you read the TOS of the various cable and satellite services it is clear that Slingbox puts the user in violation of the contract they signed with their provider. Furthermore, its use probably puts the cable/satellite operator in violation of the contracts they signed with their content providers. “Illegal” is the wrong word, but “breach of contract” is demonstrably accurate.

Now whether these TOS make sense in a modern world is a different discussion (I suspect we agree that the current TOS are obsolete).

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