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		<title>By: Om Malik on Broadband : &#187; Silicon Valley Shrugs Off Google Hiccup</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/18/yahoo-google-web-20-reality-check/#comment-113493</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Om Malik on Broadband : &#187; Silicon Valley Shrugs Off Google Hiccup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 14:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Toni Schneider, an entrepreneur who recently left Yahoo to become a partner with San Francisco-based True Ventures, sees parallels between how Google and Yahoo were treated by an over-optimistic Wall Street. &#8220;The numbers are pretty good and everything is growing,&#8221; says Schneider. &#8220;I don&#8217;t see any gloom or doom.&#8221; Jeff Clavier, who understands online advertising and search game pretty well pointed out that Google, which sells ads on its own Web sites as well as ones run by other publishers, is shifting more ad revenues to its own network. According to Clavier, that indicates that Google&#8217;s core business of search is improving. [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Toni Schneider, an entrepreneur who recently left Yahoo to become a partner with San Francisco-based True Ventures, sees parallels between how Google and Yahoo were treated by an over-optimistic Wall Street. &#8220;The numbers are pretty good and everything is growing,&#8221; says Schneider. &#8220;I don&#8217;t see any gloom or doom.&#8221; Jeff Clavier, who understands online advertising and search game pretty well pointed out that Google, which sells ads on its own Web sites as well as ones run by other publishers, is shifting more ad revenues to its own network. According to Clavier, that indicates that Google&#8217;s core business of search is improving. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: the lone sysadmin &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2006-01-24</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/18/yahoo-google-web-20-reality-check/#comment-113492</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[the lone sysadmin &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2006-01-24]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Om Malik on Broadband : » Yahoo, Google &amp; Web 2.0 Reality Check (tags: google yahoo) [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
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		<title>By: the lone sysadmin &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Yahoo! vs. Google</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/18/yahoo-google-web-20-reality-check/#comment-113491</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[the lone sysadmin &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Yahoo! vs. Google]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 01:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] I agree with Om Malik, Google is an advertising company. They dabble in other high-tech ventures by building tools for others to use. Yahoo! is a content provider that looks for the best of the new technology and uses it to help people build content and relationships. Can you compare them? Yes, but carefully. Does Yahoo! create value? Definitely. [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I agree with Om Malik, Google is an advertising company. They dabble in other high-tech ventures by building tools for others to use. Yahoo! is a content provider that looks for the best of the new technology and uses it to help people build content and relationships. Can you compare them? Yes, but carefully. Does Yahoo! create value? Definitely. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik on Broadband : &#187; Search&#8217;s Bad Week</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/18/yahoo-google-web-20-reality-check/#comment-113490</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Om Malik on Broadband : &#187; Search&#8217;s Bad Week]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] It was a bad week for search related companies. Yahoo disappointed, and with it the sentiment on search companies turned a little bearish. Soon after, there was an uproar when DoJ asking Google and others to hand over certain information. (An alternate opinion is here!) Suddenly we were all thinking about cached life. Google plummeted nearly 8.5% of Friday, posting its worst day on stock markets thus far. Niall and I thought, it would be pretty sweet if we did a podcast recaping it all. Om and Niall PodSessions: Search around the world Governments and search engines in other countries were busy moving forward with their own search plans despite the distractions in Silicon Valley. France and Germany announced a collaborative effort to develop the Quaero project to counter the power of Google and Yahoo! over content in those two countries. The new search engine will receive around $2 billion from the European Union to develop new search technologies especially focused on audio and video. In Korea NHN&#8217;s Naver.com continues its stellar growth with over 40% of the country&#8217;s search market. Google currently has only about 2% of the Korean market. Naver adds mashups and detailed information directly on search results pages assisted by efforts from its millions of subscribers. The company has expanded into Japan and China behind the power of its gaming network and founded a U.S. subsidiary. All these topics and more in this week&#8217;s podcast. The podcast is 21 minutes long, a 9.8 MB download. You can listen to it by downloading it, or subscribing to our feed or on iTunes. [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It was a bad week for search related companies. Yahoo disappointed, and with it the sentiment on search companies turned a little bearish. Soon after, there was an uproar when DoJ asking Google and others to hand over certain information. (An alternate opinion is here!) Suddenly we were all thinking about cached life. Google plummeted nearly 8.5% of Friday, posting its worst day on stock markets thus far. Niall and I thought, it would be pretty sweet if we did a podcast recaping it all. Om and Niall PodSessions: Search around the world Governments and search engines in other countries were busy moving forward with their own search plans despite the distractions in Silicon Valley. France and Germany announced a collaborative effort to develop the Quaero project to counter the power of Google and Yahoo! over content in those two countries. The new search engine will receive around $2 billion from the European Union to develop new search technologies especially focused on audio and video. In Korea NHN&#8217;s Naver.com continues its stellar growth with over 40% of the country&#8217;s search market. Google currently has only about 2% of the Korean market. Naver adds mashups and detailed information directly on search results pages assisted by efforts from its millions of subscribers. The company has expanded into Japan and China behind the power of its gaming network and founded a U.S. subsidiary. All these topics and more in this week&#8217;s podcast. The podcast is 21 minutes long, a 9.8 MB download. You can listen to it by downloading it, or subscribing to our feed or on iTunes. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: William Mandra</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/18/yahoo-google-web-20-reality-check/#comment-113489</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Mandra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not much of a stocks guy personally, I have a finacial advisor for that stuff, but I think the biggest with investor-types and companies like Google and Yahoo is just expecting way too much. Remember, these companies started out as search engines - period! All of the other neat little products and ideas they are coming up with maybe helping them earn a profit, but they are distracting them from their primary focus. Is Google a search engine or an internet advertising company??? This distraction is hurting Web 2.0 companies more than alot of people realize. Do the following google search: site:http://www.protopage.com now look at the search results. Notice that there are only titles but no description? This is because protopage is based on Web 2.0 technology, AJAX, which the search engines can&#039;t handle yet.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-b&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not much of a stocks guy personally, I have a finacial advisor for that stuff, but I think the biggest with investor-types and companies like Google and Yahoo is just expecting way too much. Remember, these companies started out as search engines &#8211; period! All of the other neat little products and ideas they are coming up with maybe helping them earn a profit, but they are distracting them from their primary focus. Is Google a search engine or an internet advertising company??? This distraction is hurting Web 2.0 companies more than alot of people realize. Do the following google search: site:<a href="http://www.protopage.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.protopage.com</a> now look at the search results. Notice that there are only titles but no description? This is because protopage is based on Web 2.0 technology, AJAX, which the search engines can&#8217;t handle yet.</p>
<p>-b</p>
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		<title>By: nick gogerty</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/18/yahoo-google-web-20-reality-check/#comment-113488</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nick gogerty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;We help bloggers make extra money by distributing an ad supported RSS reader that can be dynamically pre-loaded with feeds.  We think media delivery will be an interesting business. we will be the pipe, but have a look for yourself and let us know what you think.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We help bloggers make extra money by distributing an ad supported RSS reader that can be dynamically pre-loaded with feeds.  We think media delivery will be an interesting business. we will be the pipe, but have a look for yourself and let us know what you think.</p>
<p>In the future our reader will support rich media and allow for virtually cost free video and audio distribution.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Venture Capital Web 2.0 Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Yahoo fell 12% today: missed forcasts&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/18/yahoo-google-web-20-reality-check/#comment-113487</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Texas Venture Capital Web 2.0 Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Yahoo fell 12% today: missed forcasts&#8230;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] &#160;More here, here, here, here, here, and here. [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &nbsp;More here, here, here, here, here, and here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Big Act</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/18/yahoo-google-web-20-reality-check/#comment-113486</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Big Act]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;It&#039;s not a bubble until no one is complaining.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s not a bubble until there are so many people excited about it that everyone stops worrying about it being a bubble.  The canary you should watch is Om Malik.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>It&#8217;s not a bubble until no one is complaining.</strong></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a bubble until there are so many people excited about it that everyone stops worrying about it being a bubble.  The canary you should watch is Om Malik.</p>
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		<title>By: Supr.c.ilio.us: The Blog &#187; Death of the Bubble Imminent, Film at 11</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/18/yahoo-google-web-20-reality-check/#comment-113485</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Supr.c.ilio.us: The Blog &#187; Death of the Bubble Imminent, Film at 11]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] All around the blogosphere, pundits are busy writing eulogies for the latest Bubble. Yahoo misses a single estimate and suddenly everybody&#8217;s losing their nerve. I&#8217;ve said it before and I&#8217;ll say it again. This is no way to build a bubble, people! Shake it off and let&#8217;s make with the hype! We need focus, we need belief and we need to drink more of that Koolaid (mmm&#8230; cherry!). [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] All around the blogosphere, pundits are busy writing eulogies for the latest Bubble. Yahoo misses a single estimate and suddenly everybody&#8217;s losing their nerve. I&#8217;ve said it before and I&#8217;ll say it again. This is no way to build a bubble, people! Shake it off and let&#8217;s make with the hype! We need focus, we need belief and we need to drink more of that Koolaid (mmm&#8230; cherry!). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bizman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/18/yahoo-google-web-20-reality-check/#comment-113484</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bizman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;One small thing, Om. Don&#039;t pay any attention to the stock option expensing. I know it is mandated by GAAP but the truth is that stocks are (or at least should be) valued on their future cash flows. Stock option expenses are not cash and therefore should not be effecting the stocks price. I guess with investors paying attention to it and earnings the focus has shifted, though the &quot;true&quot; valuation of the company is not. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Furthermore I would say that Yahoo had great growth (as I&#039;m sure Google will). Just because analysts misforecasted should be no reason to punish these companies in the market. Take a look at concensus analyst estimates for any number of companies (high tech and non tech) and you will see that analysts consistently overestimate EPS. This is a problem endemic to Wall Street.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One small thing, Om. Don&#8217;t pay any attention to the stock option expensing. I know it is mandated by GAAP but the truth is that stocks are (or at least should be) valued on their future cash flows. Stock option expenses are not cash and therefore should not be effecting the stocks price. I guess with investors paying attention to it and earnings the focus has shifted, though the &#8220;true&#8221; valuation of the company is not. </p>
<p>Furthermore I would say that Yahoo had great growth (as I&#8217;m sure Google will). Just because analysts misforecasted should be no reason to punish these companies in the market. Take a look at concensus analyst estimates for any number of companies (high tech and non tech) and you will see that analysts consistently overestimate EPS. This is a problem endemic to Wall Street.</p>
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