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		<title>By: TechCrunch &#187; Top 10 Sources Announces Executive Team</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/16/its-a-splog-planet/#comment-42582</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch &#187; Top 10 Sources Announces Executive Team</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 02:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] The service has been heavily criticized by Mike Rundle, Om Malik and Adam Green (and subsequently defended by Dave Winer and John Palfrey) for copying blog posts. [...]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Texas Venture Capital Web 2.0 Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; TopTenSources Opt-in&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/16/its-a-splog-planet/#comment-42579</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas Venture Capital Web 2.0 Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; TopTenSources Opt-in&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Last week a number of bloggers got their feathers ruffled because John&#8217;s team did not ask permission to re-syndicate their feeds.&#160; This week they started asking everyone if it was okay and almost everyone was happy to allow the links with the exception of Weblogs Inc. (evidently it was a violation of their contract with their bloggers).&#160; Read more here, here, here, here, here, here, and here. [...]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Last week a number of bloggers got their feathers ruffled because John&#8217;s team did not ask permission to re-syndicate their feeds.&nbsp; This week they started asking everyone if it was okay and almost everyone was happy to allow the links with the exception of Weblogs Inc. (evidently it was a violation of their contract with their bloggers).&nbsp; Read more here, here, here, here, here, here, and here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/16/its-a-splog-planet/#comment-42576</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Isn't your default, unstated copyright already "All Rights Reserved" - or do you want to add a different copyright?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What's the difference between a splog and an issue-oriented, editor selected, portal smacking aggregator?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t your default, unstated copyright already &#8220;All Rights Reserved&#8221; - or do you want to add a different copyright?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the difference between a splog and an issue-oriented, editor selected, portal smacking aggregator?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeneane Sessum</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/16/its-a-splog-planet/#comment-42573</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeneane Sessum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was selected as a Top Ten Source when the site first started. Selected is an interesting word, and there's probably a post we could devote to that term alone, but in short, I said "Thanks" and then waited to see how it would all work out.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So far, it's been fine, but I'm not sure what I'm really getting out of it--and I'm not sure if I really should be getting anything out of it, or if somehow I'm benefiting without knowing it. If the real purpose is for TTS to 'be a channel,' not content, as they say, then it would be interesting to hear back from our channel on how things are going--what's new? What kind of readers are clicking through to me? etc.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Basically, as a Top Ten Source, I'm okay with the model today. As you have said Om, and I thought the same thing when I saw my posts flowing through TTS, they should have ASKED not SELECTED. In my case I know the Source Aggregatess (halley) who selected me, and I was simply glad she thought of me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The big question: what is this model really about? If I see ads running next to my content and I'm not sharing in that revenue, then I'll be mightily peeved. And taking me off at that point won't be good enough to make me unpeeved. So if that's where they're going, then I want to know, because AGREED TO revenue sharing terms are the difference between legit and splog.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;which gives me an idea.... need to go now and add a certain copyright notice to my RSS feed... ;-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was selected as a Top Ten Source when the site first started. Selected is an interesting word, and there&#8217;s probably a post we could devote to that term alone, but in short, I said &#8220;Thanks&#8221; and then waited to see how it would all work out.</p>
<p>So far, it&#8217;s been fine, but I&#8217;m not sure what I&#8217;m really getting out of it&#8211;and I&#8217;m not sure if I really should be getting anything out of it, or if somehow I&#8217;m benefiting without knowing it. If the real purpose is for TTS to &#8216;be a channel,&#8217; not content, as they say, then it would be interesting to hear back from our channel on how things are going&#8211;what&#8217;s new? What kind of readers are clicking through to me? etc.</p>
<p>Basically, as a Top Ten Source, I&#8217;m okay with the model today. As you have said Om, and I thought the same thing when I saw my posts flowing through TTS, they should have ASKED not SELECTED. In my case I know the Source Aggregatess (halley) who selected me, and I was simply glad she thought of me.</p>
<p>The big question: what is this model really about? If I see ads running next to my content and I&#8217;m not sharing in that revenue, then I&#8217;ll be mightily peeved. And taking me off at that point won&#8217;t be good enough to make me unpeeved. So if that&#8217;s where they&#8217;re going, then I want to know, because AGREED TO revenue sharing terms are the difference between legit and splog.</p>
<p>which gives me an idea&#8230;. need to go now and add a certain copyright notice to my RSS feed&#8230; ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/16/its-a-splog-planet/#comment-42571</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dave Winer posted an essay about top ten sources today. http://www.scripting.com/2006/01/18.html#When:9:53:17AM&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Winer posted an essay about top ten sources today.  (<a href="http://www.scripting.com/2006/01/18.html#When:9:53:17AM" rel="nofollow">link</a>) </p>
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		<title>By: Media SITREP &#187; Palfrey: Bring CC into RSS</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/16/its-a-splog-planet/#comment-42535</link>
		<dc:creator>Media SITREP &#187; Palfrey: Bring CC into RSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] A discussion about the correct use of RSS is hot on Tech.Memeorandum tonight. [...]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A discussion about the correct use of RSS is hot on Tech.Memeorandum tonight. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mathewingram.com/work</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/16/its-a-splog-planet/#comment-42533</link>
		<dc:creator>mathewingram.com/work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;When does an aggregator become a splog?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;Hey, who said blogging wasn&#8217;t cool &#8212; after all, how often do you get to use cool terms like &#8220;aggregator&#8221; and &#8220;splog?&#8221; Those terms have come up recently because Om Malik and a couple of other A-list bloggers have rai...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>When does an aggregator become a splog?</strong></p>
<pre><code>Hey, who said blogging wasn&#8217;t cool &#8212; after all, how often do you get to use cool terms like &#8220;aggregator&#8221; and &#8220;splog?&#8221; Those terms have come up recently because Om Malik and a couple of other A-list bloggers have rai...
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		<title>By: David Jackson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/16/its-a-splog-planet/#comment-42530</link>
		<dc:creator>David Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think you're totally right about this, Om, and the investors in the site make no difference. SeekingAlpha.com is the leading aggregator and filter for stock market related blogs, and I spent a lot of time thinking about the ethics of reposting. After selecting the authors we want, I email them personally to ask permission, and only repost their material after receiving explicit permission. So far they're all happy and not one has asked to be removed, since we add value by aggregating into sectorized and ticker-ized format, and aggregating the viewpoints of multiple authors about individual stocks. As a result, we drive meaningful traffic to our contributors.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re totally right about this, Om, and the investors in the site make no difference. SeekingAlpha.com is the leading aggregator and filter for stock market related blogs, and I spent a lot of time thinking about the ethics of reposting. After selecting the authors we want, I email them personally to ask permission, and only repost their material after receiving explicit permission. So far they&#8217;re all happy and not one has asked to be removed, since we add value by aggregating into sectorized and ticker-ized format, and aggregating the viewpoints of multiple authors about individual stocks. As a result, we drive meaningful traffic to our contributors.</p>
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		<title>By: cold coffee in a spent cup &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Stealing content through RSS</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/16/its-a-splog-planet/#comment-42527</link>
		<dc:creator>cold coffee in a spent cup &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Stealing content through RSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Om Malik calls it plagiarism and points to a number of bloggers making the same complaint. I don&#8217;t really see it that way. [...]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Om Malik calls it plagiarism and points to a number of bloggers making the same complaint. I don&#8217;t really see it that way. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/16/its-a-splog-planet/#comment-42524</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;adam&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i don't doubt for a minute that parley is a straight up guy, and this could just might be an explainable oversight. i am just bringing it up because if the bad guys are doing it, then the good guys have to make sure that everything is in the clear.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>adam</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t doubt for a minute that parley is a straight up guy, and this could just might be an explainable oversight. i am just bringing it up because if the bad guys are doing it, then the good guys have to make sure that everything is in the clear.</p>
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		<title>By: chandrashekar.beingalpha.com</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/16/its-a-splog-planet/#comment-42522</link>
		<dc:creator>chandrashekar.beingalpha.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The NEW newspapers&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;Om just posted about TopTenSources, an aggregator that picks a subject and grabs entries from 10 &#8220;editor&#8217;s choice&#8221; news feeds and replicates them on toptensources.com.
The issue with this is clear: &#8220;Should toptensources be all...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The NEW newspapers</strong></p>
<pre><code>Om just posted about TopTenSources, an aggregator that picks a subject and grabs entries from 10 &#8220;editor&#8217;s choice&#8221; news feeds and replicates them on toptensources.com.
The issue with this is clear: &#8220;Should toptensources be all...
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		<title>By: Adam Green</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/16/its-a-splog-planet/#comment-42520</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Om:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When I started my aggregator I emailed the people I wanted to aggregate and only one responded. I decided to just excerpt to be safe. That is what search engines do and nobody gets upset. I don't blame you for being hot about this. Soon after my first book came out someone published one with the exact same example set, including example names like Fred Astaire. My big shot copyright lawyer said that examples didn't count. That's when I stopped worrying about this stuff. Even so, you are right to keep the pressure on this issue in general. As I said on my blog, where TopTenSources may have gone too far is republishing entire feeds. But if you ever met Palrey you would know that he is a straight as they come.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Om:</p>
<p>When I started my aggregator I emailed the people I wanted to aggregate and only one responded. I decided to just excerpt to be safe. That is what search engines do and nobody gets upset. I don&#8217;t blame you for being hot about this. Soon after my first book came out someone published one with the exact same example set, including example names like Fred Astaire. My big shot copyright lawyer said that examples didn&#8217;t count. That&#8217;s when I stopped worrying about this stuff. Even so, you are right to keep the pressure on this issue in general. As I said on my blog, where TopTenSources may have gone too far is republishing entire feeds. But if you ever met Palrey you would know that he is a straight as they come.</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/16/its-a-splog-planet/#comment-42518</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i had said this earlier, and i will say it again. i have no problems with people taking and remixing my content. just show some respect, and drop me a note asking for permission. i don't thing that is too much to ask. i know dave is going to get them to do the right thing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i had said this earlier, and i will say it again. i have no problems with people taking and remixing my content. just show some respect, and drop me a note asking for permission. i don&#8217;t thing that is too much to ask. i know dave is going to get them to do the right thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/16/its-a-splog-planet/#comment-42516</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In addition to giving the original author a chance to opt in, the sites should block search engines from indexing the content. This prevents the splogs from rising above the original content in search results.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It's easy to block search engines using robots.txt or by adding a meta tag to each page:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NOINDEX"&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to giving the original author a chance to opt in, the sites should block search engines from indexing the content. This prevents the splogs from rising above the original content in search results.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to block search engines using robots.txt or by adding a meta tag to each page:</p>
<p>META NAME=&#8221;ROBOTS&#8221; CONTENT=&#8221;NOINDEX&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/16/its-a-splog-planet/#comment-42514</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I spent some time at the ten sources site a while back and believe it is not splogish at all, but an effort to use editors to aggregate great information in the same way tech.memeorandum using an algorithm. Dave Winer has talked about these guys alot I would like to hear his opinion on what they are doing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent some time at the ten sources site a while back and believe it is not splogish at all, but an effort to use editors to aggregate great information in the same way tech.memeorandum using an algorithm. Dave Winer has talked about these guys alot I would like to hear his opinion on what they are doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Rundle</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/01/16/its-a-splog-planet/#comment-42486</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Rundle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One of the comments at my BusinessLogs.com article was from somebody who has been aggregated, they said they were informed of the republishing after they were up.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think that republishing content &lt;em&gt;and then sending out an email&lt;/em&gt; is absolutely not the way to go about it.  90% of the time when a scrape site emails me beforehand I let them go ahead and do it if they leave attribution.  If they email me afterwards (or worse yet, if I email &lt;em&gt;them&lt;/em&gt;) then I'm already a bit upset about it and will tell them to remove it immediately.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sounds like a common courtesy thing, so I'm anxious to see what the Top Ten Sources people have to say.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the comments at my BusinessLogs.com article was from somebody who has been aggregated, they said they were informed of the republishing after they were up.</p>
<p>I think that republishing content <em>and then sending out an email</em> is absolutely not the way to go about it.  90% of the time when a scrape site emails me beforehand I let them go ahead and do it if they leave attribution.  If they email me afterwards (or worse yet, if I email <em>them</em>) then I&#8217;m already a bit upset about it and will tell them to remove it immediately.</p>
<p>Sounds like a common courtesy thing, so I&#8217;m anxious to see what the Top Ten Sources people have to say.</p>
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