Comments on: So Long Apple Nay Sayers http://gigaom.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:55:59 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: bosxs http://gigaom.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-477371 bosxs Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:39:51 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-477371 <p>However, with the iPod, Apple at the top of its game decides to make a fundamental transition in its business. Other than moving from OS 9 to X, changing the cpu architecture is huge. Doing it at the top of its game is a sign of strength and points to its larger strategy. http://www.n-series.us</p> However, with the iPod, Apple at the top of its game decides to make a fundamental transition in its business. Other than moving from OS 9 to X, changing the cpu architecture is huge. Doing it at the top of its game is a sign of strength and points to its larger strategy.
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]]> By: notebook http://gigaom.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42251 notebook Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:33:24 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42251 <p>I have to do my work , YOur site real good ! I will come back next time.</p> I have to do my work ,
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]]> By: notebook http://gigaom.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42248 notebook Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:32:11 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42248 <p>too much things. Let me have a look for a long time. Good site,</p> too much things.
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]]> By: Om Malik http://gigaom.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42245 Om Malik Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:52:27 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42245 <p>menhir,</p> <p>thanks for the proofing. and grammatical corrections. appreciate the effort and comments.</p> menhir,

thanks for the proofing. and grammatical corrections. appreciate the effort and comments.

]]> By: Menhir http://gigaom.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42242 Menhir Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:28:31 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42242 <p>Interesting read. Although, being as nitpicky as I am, I couldn't help but notice the multitude of grammatical and spelling errors in the article. </p> <p>Now, I don't claim to be an expert of the language, but when you're a "senior writer", correct grammar and spelling should come to you as easily as taking the next breath of air. </p> <p>While pretty much every sentence is fragmented or has a comma splice, here are some examples:</p> <ul> <li><p>" Dell was lapped by Apple" - Did you mean to say lapped up by Apple? Apple ran laps around Dell? </p></li> <li><p>"That's not all, look..." - Fragmented sentence. </p></li> <li><p>"Its been the case.." - Should be It's</p></li> <li><p>"Over past four quarters Dell had sales of a whopping $54.2 billion..." - Should be "Over the past four quarters, Dell has had a whopping $54.2 billion in sales..." </p></li> <li><p>"Perhaps, the bigger doesn’t necessarily mean bigger profits." - Maybe you're trying to say "Perhaps a larger company doesn't necessarily translate to higher profits"? </p></li> <li><p>"The divergence in the direction of Dell and Apple shares, is pretty telling." - Comma splice</p></li> <li><p>"technology in the new porn, and iPod is the new rock star" - Should that entire sentence be in italics? Also, it's technology is, not in. By the way, that phrase doesn't even make sense as a relative comparison. "technology is the new porn, and iPod is the new Jenna Jameson", would probably be a typical metaphor in this instance. </p></li> <li><p>"I find it amusing that most folks in retail and consumer good totally get the Apple renaissance while people who little or no grasp of the consumer, turn out to be Apple naysayers" - This sentence is absolutely awful! </p></li> </ul> <p>I could go on and on, but am tired of pointing out the obvious. I am hoping you pawned this article off to a bumbling intern who had to type it up in a hurry, because if not, you certainly need to re-evaluate your title of "senior writer" with as prestigious a magazine as Business 2.0. </p> <p>Mr. Malik, I'd recommend you invest in the Bedford Handbook and think about getting one of the Business 2.0 Editors to proof-read your blogs before posting, starting with the title of the article, because even that is wrong.</p> Interesting read. Although, being as nitpicky as I am, I couldn’t help but notice the multitude of grammatical and spelling errors in the article.

Now, I don’t claim to be an expert of the language, but when you’re a “senior writer”, correct grammar and spelling should come to you as easily as taking the next breath of air.

While pretty much every sentence is fragmented or has a comma splice, here are some examples:

  • ” Dell was lapped by Apple” – Did you mean to say lapped up by Apple? Apple ran laps around Dell?

  • “That’s not all, look…” – Fragmented sentence.

  • “Its been the case..” – Should be It’s

  • “Over past four quarters Dell had sales of a whopping $54.2 billion…” – Should be “Over the past four quarters, Dell has had a whopping $54.2 billion in sales…”

  • “Perhaps, the bigger doesn’t necessarily mean bigger profits.” – Maybe you’re trying to say “Perhaps a larger company doesn’t necessarily translate to higher profits”?

  • “The divergence in the direction of Dell and Apple shares, is pretty telling.” – Comma splice

  • “technology in the new porn, and iPod is the new rock star” – Should that entire sentence be in italics? Also, it’s technology is, not in. By the way, that phrase doesn’t even make sense as a relative comparison. “technology is the new porn, and iPod is the new Jenna Jameson”, would probably be a typical metaphor in this instance.

  • “I find it amusing that most folks in retail and consumer good totally get the Apple renaissance while people who little or no grasp of the consumer, turn out to be Apple naysayers” – This sentence is absolutely awful!

I could go on and on, but am tired of pointing out the obvious. I am hoping you pawned this article off to a bumbling intern who had to type it up in a hurry, because if not, you certainly need to re-evaluate your title of “senior writer” with as prestigious a magazine as Business 2.0.

Mr. Malik, I’d recommend you invest in the Bedford Handbook and think about getting one of the Business 2.0 Editors to proof-read your blogs before posting, starting with the title of the article, because even that is wrong.

]]> By: Varun Prasad http://gigaom.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42239 Varun Prasad Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:33:12 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42239 <p>The shareholder argument, while very strong falters slightly when apple is concerned. This is because a strong part of Apple's strength is its brand and focus on the consumer. If the consumer gets wind of the fact that Apple is looking after its shareholders and not its users, then the Apple brand is going to take a significant hit. Significant enough that the actual monetary value of the company will drop. Its not for no reason that it is one of the most valuable brands in the world, especially the tech world.</p> The shareholder argument, while very strong falters slightly when apple is concerned. This is because a strong part of Apple’s strength is its brand and focus on the consumer. If the consumer gets wind of the fact that Apple is looking after its shareholders and not its users, then the Apple brand is going to take a significant hit. Significant enough that the actual monetary value of the company will drop. Its not for no reason that it is one of the most valuable brands in the world, especially the tech world.

]]> By: sillyputty http://gigaom.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42236 sillyputty Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:34:17 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42236 <p>regarding iPod becoming commoditized..</p> <p>People have bought nearly a billion iTMS tracks. Those purchased tracks can be played in a few ways:</p> <ol> <li>PC's and Macs running iTunes</li> <li>CD players after burning to CD</li> <li>iPods.</li> </ol> <p>If your iPod wears out and you want a new player, there is some built in "stickiness" that will push you towards a new iPod, if you have any of those billion purchased tracks to your name... this doesn't apply to music ripped from CD or other sources of course.</p> regarding iPod becoming commoditized..

People have bought nearly a billion iTMS tracks. Those purchased tracks can be played in a few ways:

  1. PC’s and Macs running iTunes
  2. CD players after burning to CD
  3. iPods.

If your iPod wears out and you want a new player, there is some built in “stickiness” that will push you towards a new iPod, if you have any of those billion purchased tracks to your name… this doesn’t apply to music ripped from CD or other sources of course.

]]> By: dinesh http://gigaom.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42233 dinesh Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:14:34 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42233 <p>pwb and multy - platform hate blinds thy.</p> <p>true dat appl wants more money their computers need to sell more..they're selling less than xBox and Playstation do in quarter (just comparision). iPod is a phenomenon (and a phenomenal success)</p> <p>deny the above, and you will see why appl needs to sell more computers to sustain growth, profitability & justify their stock price.</p> pwb and multy – platform hate blinds thy.

true dat appl wants more money
their computers need to sell more..they’re selling less than xBox and Playstation do in quarter (just comparision).
iPod is a phenomenon (and a phenomenal success)

deny the above, and you will see why appl needs to sell more computers to sustain growth, profitability & justify their stock price.

]]> By: Apple’s Market Cap Passes Dells » 9rules featured http://gigaom.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42231 Apple’s Market Cap Passes Dells » 9rules featured Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:58:58 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42231 <p>[...] The Apple Blog mentions what Om Malik reported (both 9rules Network Members) about Apple’s Market Cap surpassing that of Dell’s. [...]</p> [...] The Apple Blog mentions what Om Malik reported (both 9rules Network Members) about Apple’s Market Cap surpassing that of Dell’s. [...]

]]> By: RK http://gigaom.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42229 RK Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:20:16 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42229 <p>To "Irwin Lazar"'s comment on 3G/4G wireless etc., this is a dog and don't count on it. Operator-involved wireless services are all hamstrung by the fears and the disease of indecision that are endemic to these service providers. A simple example: it was way back in '96 that we did the FPGA prototype of a "3G" phone (for an unspecified telecom customer) which was by then already touted as a "third generation - 3G," and everyone said they'll roll it out in a year or two. We all know what happened/is happening. It's now 8 years later and we still don't have 3G "ubiquitous" wireless service, let alone any "winner." There will be no "big winner" in this space. It took the industry all this time just to figure out the economics of the base-stations - which one scales well, macro, a micro, or a pico cell? - and the ARPU is always shrinking. I understand the euphoria and excitement one feels when one thinks of these gobs of multimedia data being streamed wirelessly over iPod-like devices, but believe me, it is largely a technologist's dream, not a businessman's reality. (I am not saying "Irwin Lazar" is a technologist, but you get the point). The only saving grace for wireless during the past six odd years has been WLAN. It thrived because there was no operator involvement on its way up. And another thing, in n age when we are getting used to 720p/1080i resolutions on the screen, multimedia over wireless will not fly, people won't like the quality. One can argue for a small-screen you won't need the high bandwidth, that then leaves the question of multipath channel interference. If anyone tells you they can give you the wire-like quality over multipath channel, then I suggest you run, don't walk, AWAY. Cheers:-)</p> <p>RK</p> To “Irwin Lazar”’s comment on 3G/4G wireless etc., this is a dog and don’t count on it. Operator-involved wireless services are all hamstrung by the fears and the disease of indecision that are endemic to these service providers. A simple example: it was way back in ‘96 that we did the FPGA prototype of a “3G” phone (for an unspecified telecom customer) which was by then already touted as a
“third generation – 3G,” and everyone said they’ll roll it out in a year or two. We all know what happened/is happening. It’s now 8 years later and we still don’t have 3G “ubiquitous” wireless service, let alone any “winner.” There will be no “big winner” in this space. It took the industry all this time just to figure out the economics of the base-stations – which one scales well, macro, a micro, or a pico cell? – and the ARPU is always shrinking. I understand the euphoria and excitement one feels when one thinks of these gobs of multimedia data being streamed wirelessly over iPod-like devices, but believe me, it is largely a technologist’s dream, not a businessman’s reality. (I am not saying “Irwin Lazar” is a technologist, but you get the point). The only saving grace for wireless during the past six odd years has been WLAN. It thrived because there was no operator involvement on its way up. And another thing, in n age when we are getting used to 720p/1080i resolutions on the screen, multimedia over wireless will not fly, people won’t like the quality. One can argue for a small-screen you won’t need the high bandwidth, that then leaves the question of multipath channel interference. If anyone tells you they can give you the wire-like quality over multipath channel, then I suggest you run, don’t walk, AWAY. Cheers:-)

RK

]]> By: andrey beletsky http://gigaom.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42211 andrey beletsky Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:53:13 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42211 <p>actually, I agree with mcnealy: ipod is a temporary thing. my 4G ipod went bye-bye after a year of use. and I'm going to buy a new one, if not two of them ("big" ipod + ipod shuffle).</p> actually, I agree with mcnealy: ipod is a temporary thing. my 4G ipod went bye-bye after a year of use. and I’m going to buy a new one, if not two of them (“big” ipod + ipod shuffle).

]]> By: Irwin Lazar http://gigaom.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42208 Irwin Lazar Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:06:44 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42208 <p>FWIW, my best guess is that whoever figures out how to mate 3G/4G wireless services (e.g. Mobile WiMax, EDGE, EV-DO) with mobile media players will be the next big winner. It could be motorola, Apple, or even the wireless providers themselves. The next big thing will be an iPod like device capable of utilizing near megabit wireless services. The biggest flaw in current handheld devices is the need to plug them into a PC to get content.</p> <p>But on another note, the enterprise market is ripe for the pickings given concerns and frustration over WinTel security. If only Apple could team with either IBM or Dell, they'd finally be able to mount a real challenge to Windows dominance.</p> FWIW, my best guess is that whoever figures out how to mate 3G/4G wireless services (e.g. Mobile WiMax, EDGE, EV-DO) with mobile media players will be the next big winner. It could be motorola, Apple, or even the wireless providers themselves. The next big thing will be an iPod like device capable of utilizing near megabit wireless services. The biggest flaw in current handheld devices is the need to plug them into a PC to get content.

But on another note, the enterprise market is ripe for the pickings given concerns and frustration over WinTel security. If only Apple could team with either IBM or Dell, they’d finally be able to mount a real challenge to Windows dominance.

]]> By: The Snailbyte Weblog » Blog Archive » Upmarket Apple DesignerWare http://gigaom.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42205 The Snailbyte Weblog » Blog Archive » Upmarket Apple DesignerWare Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:07:36 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42205 <p>[...] In “So Long Apple Nay Sayers”, Om Malik highlights the difference in performance between Apple and Dell, where Apple plays the role of the upmarket retailer. [...]</p> [...] In “So Long Apple Nay Sayers”, Om Malik highlights the difference in performance between Apple and Dell, where Apple plays the role of the upmarket retailer. [...]

]]> By: The Apple Blog » Apple’s Market Cap Passes Dell’s http://gigaom.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42202 The Apple Blog » Apple’s Market Cap Passes Dell’s Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:00:24 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42202 <p>[...] Om Malik is offering a more in-depth perspective of this event being mused about on Slashdot, and Nicholas Carr’s blog among a few places: Perhaps the “commoditized” technology trend is being slowly replaced by “using commoditized technology to create a compelling user experience” trend? [ Read ] [...]</p> [...] Om Malik is offering a more in-depth perspective of this event being mused about on Slashdot, and Nicholas Carr’s blog among a few places: Perhaps the “commoditized” technology trend is being slowly replaced by “using commoditized technology to create a compelling user experience” trend? [ Read ] [...]

]]> By: Multy http://gigaom.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42199 Multy Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:49:49 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42199 <p>Hmm, our man "dinesh" in the previous post has got it all wrong. Apple's business is making money for their shareholders; it so happens that their mantra is that an integrated software/hardware combination provides a better overall user experience. They will likely make higher margins with Intel chips in their hardware. If people want to put Vista on top of their hardware, they are perfectly okay with it. Hell, they might actually encourage it if that enables more widespread adoption of their stuff in the enterprise market. No one says you can't use a Ferrari as a commuter car, did they? Christensen's theory generally applies to the mass market products; however in every industry at the higher end there were always two or three players who were able to extract better premiums due to branding/marketing and that intangible, "the better user experience".</p> Hmm, our man “dinesh” in the previous post has got it all wrong. Apple’s business is making money for their shareholders; it so happens that their mantra is that an integrated software/hardware combination provides a better overall user experience. They will likely make higher margins with Intel chips in their hardware. If people want to put Vista on top of their hardware, they are perfectly okay with it. Hell, they might actually encourage it if that enables more widespread adoption of their stuff in the enterprise market. No one says you can’t use a Ferrari as a commuter car, did they?
Christensen’s theory generally applies to the mass market products; however in every industry at the higher end there were always two or three players who were able to extract better premiums due to branding/marketing and that intangible, “the better user experience”.

]]> By: pwb http://gigaom.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42197 pwb Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:07:31 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/01/14/apple-dell/#comment-42197 <p>"apple will sell OS-less hardware soon"</p> <p>I'd be surprised if Apple <em>ever</em> sold OS-less hardware. They certainly will not sell it "soon".</p> “apple will sell OS-less hardware soon”

I’d be surprised if Apple ever sold OS-less hardware. They certainly will not sell it “soon”.

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