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	<title>Comments on: FCC On NetNeutrality &#8211; Don&#8217;t Worry, Be Happy</title>
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		<title>By: mathewingram.com/work &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The campaign for a two-tier Internet</title>
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		<dc:creator>mathewingram.com/work &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The campaign for a two-tier Internet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 19:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] As so eloquently stated by AT&amp;T CEO Ed &#8220;Google better pay for access to our pipes&#8221; Whitacre and BellSouth CTO Bill &#8220;pay up or watch your download crawl&#8221; Smith, telcos in the U.S. and Canada want the ability to structure their networks so that their own applications and data &#8212; streaming video to your cellphone, for example &#8212; work faster and better than others. (Om Malik notes that the FCC seems to favour the telcos). [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As so eloquently stated by AT&amp;T CEO Ed &#8220;Google better pay for access to our pipes&#8221; Whitacre and BellSouth CTO Bill &#8220;pay up or watch your download crawl&#8221; Smith, telcos in the U.S. and Canada want the ability to structure their networks so that their own applications and data &#8212; streaming video to your cellphone, for example &#8212; work faster and better than others. (Om Malik notes that the FCC seems to favour the telcos). [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Robert J. Berger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert J. Berger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 06:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry, no the Telcos did not pay for the network. We the ratepayers paid for it over and over and over again under monopoly based regulated pricing. Now they dare to say they own it!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Its time for horizontal divestature. A fundamental maxium of networks must be that the same entity that controls the pipe is allowed to control content. There is no way to have democracy or free speech let alone true choice of entertainment, news and information if the same entity controls both.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Municipal layer 1 networks (fiber, conduit and telephone poles) with open access at municipal meet points would be the most appropriate way if we didn&#039;t have total warpage of regulation by monied monopoly interests.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, no the Telcos did not pay for the network. We the ratepayers paid for it over and over and over again under monopoly based regulated pricing. Now they dare to say they own it!</p>

<p>Its time for horizontal divestature. A fundamental maxium of networks must be that the same entity that controls the pipe is allowed to control content. There is no way to have democracy or free speech let alone true choice of entertainment, news and information if the same entity controls both.</p>

<p>Municipal layer 1 networks (fiber, conduit and telephone poles) with open access at municipal meet points would be the most appropriate way if we didn&#8217;t have total warpage of regulation by monied monopoly interests.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Steve Shaffer</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/12/15/fcc-on-netneutrality-dont-worry-be-happy/#comment-38028</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Shaffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;BusinessWeek has published more either of this story or related to it here:
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/dec2005/tc20051215_141991.htm?link_position=link1&amp;campaign_id=nws_tech_Dec16&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The good news is that a small carrier got fined.  The bad news is that they weren&#039;t breaking any laws.
The FCC ruling that allows this behavior has major implications for anyone trying to deliver services to consumers.  It&#039;s worth reading here:
http://ftp.fcc.gov/FCC-05-150A1.pdf&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also Mr Whitacre (AT&amp;T CEO for now) has a very chilling comment in the article:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yet in a Nov. 7 interview with BusinessWeek Online, AT&amp;T CEO Edward Whitacre Jr. declared: &quot;What [Google, Vonage, and others] would like to do is to use my pipes free. But I ain&#039;t going to let them do that.&quot; Whitacre and AT&amp;T argue that they need flexibility to exact a toll from Web services that hog bandwidth.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Last time I checked I&#039;m paying for the &quot;pipe&quot;, so is Googlezon, and network providers are misleading us about how much bandwidth is truly available (due to massive over subscription).  Anyone who thinks that the FCC ruling 05-150 will stimulate innovation in organizations that rely on monopolistic regulations for unfair advantage hasn&#039;t worked with telcos or MSOs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve written more about this here:
http://s_shaffer.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/censored-and-robbed-by-your-network-provider-its-started/er.wordpress.com&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is one of the few times that I&#039;ve written to my congressonal representatives.  FCC 05-150 is a scandle.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BusinessWeek has published more either of this story or related to it here:
<a href="http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/dec2005/tc20051215_141991.htm?link_position=link1&amp;campaign_id=nws_tech_Dec16" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/dec2005/tc20051215_141991.htm?link_position=link1&amp;campaign_id=nws_tech_Dec16</a></p>

<p>The good news is that a small carrier got fined.  The bad news is that they weren&#8217;t breaking any laws.
The FCC ruling that allows this behavior has major implications for anyone trying to deliver services to consumers.  It&#8217;s worth reading here:
<a href="http://ftp.fcc.gov/FCC-05-150A1.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://ftp.fcc.gov/FCC-05-150A1.pdf</a></p>

<p>Also Mr Whitacre (AT&amp;T CEO for now) has a very chilling comment in the article:</p>

<p>Yet in a Nov. 7 interview with BusinessWeek Online, AT&amp;T CEO Edward Whitacre Jr. declared: &#8220;What [Google, Vonage, and others] would like to do is to use my pipes free. But I ain&#8217;t going to let them do that.&#8221; Whitacre and AT&amp;T argue that they need flexibility to exact a toll from Web services that hog bandwidth.</p>

<p>Last time I checked I&#8217;m paying for the &#8220;pipe&#8221;, so is Googlezon, and network providers are misleading us about how much bandwidth is truly available (due to massive over subscription).  Anyone who thinks that the FCC ruling 05-150 will stimulate innovation in organizations that rely on monopolistic regulations for unfair advantage hasn&#8217;t worked with telcos or MSOs.</p>

<p>I&#8217;ve written more about this here:
<a href="http://s_shaffer.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/censored-and-robbed-by-your-network-provider-its-started/er.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://s_shaffer.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/censored-and-robbed-by-your-network-provider-its-started/er.wordpress.com</a></p>

<p>This is one of the few times that I&#8217;ve written to my congressonal representatives.  FCC 05-150 is a scandle.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Computerworld Blogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Computerworld Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Diebold Hursti hack (and PC R us)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In today&#039;s IT Blogwatch, we look at the disasterous dumping of dastardly Diebold voting machines by a Florida county. Not to mention the British blogger who tries desparately not to use the C-word, after recently moving to the US...
Diebold out of Leo...&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>In today&#8217;s IT Blogwatch, we look at the disasterous dumping of dastardly Diebold voting machines by a Florida county. Not to mention the British blogger who tries desparately not to use the C-word, after recently moving to the US&#8230;
Diebold out of Leo&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mathewingram.com/work</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/12/15/fcc-on-netneutrality-dont-worry-be-happy/#comment-38026</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The campaign for a two-tier Internet&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;Can you hear that sound? It&#8217;s the sound of the telecom troops stepping up their lobbying effort on Capitol Hill in Washingon, and on Parliament Hill in Ottawa. And the subject of this effort? The &#8220;need&#8221; for a two-tiered Internet. The...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The campaign for a two-tier Internet</strong></p>

<pre><code>Can you hear that sound? It&amp;#8217;s the sound of the telecom troops stepping up their lobbying effort on Capitol Hill in Washingon, and on Parliament Hill in Ottawa. And the subject of this effort? The &amp;#8220;need&amp;#8221; for a two-tiered Internet. The...
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Om,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You say you aren&#039;t worried about network owners giving preferential treatment to their own services but ARE worried about them charging others for the same quality of service. And in same post where you excorciate the FCC on its double standard.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So if BellSouth&#039;s new 8x8 &quot;partnered&quot; service is given reserved bandwidth (and this is what all the technical QoS mumbo jumbo adds up to in practice) and consequently works over my funky no-so-reliable DSL line while Vonage&#039;s and Skype&#039;s are unreliable and prone to odd hesitations that&#039;s ok?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I paid for that bandwidth or at least I think I did and I believe leaching from it to give 8x8 some special privilege is leaching from me. In MY opinion (if not a lawyers) promising me &quot;best effort&quot; service can ONLY mean that BellSouth (ATT, et al.) don&#039;t deliberately eat up bandwidth that they sold me. And that should include offering &quot;prioritizeation&quot; to their favored few or even their own directly-owned product.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Is that ok? If so how do you reason about it? And how is it true that they aren&#039;t selling something to their 8x8 partner (or themselves should that come to pass) that they already sold me?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Om,</p>

<p>You say you aren&#8217;t worried about network owners giving preferential treatment to their own services but ARE worried about them charging others for the same quality of service. And in same post where you excorciate the FCC on its double standard.</p>

<p>So if BellSouth&#8217;s new 8&#215;8 &#8220;partnered&#8221; service is given reserved bandwidth (and this is what all the technical QoS mumbo jumbo adds up to in practice) and consequently works over my funky no-so-reliable DSL line while Vonage&#8217;s and Skype&#8217;s are unreliable and prone to odd hesitations that&#8217;s ok?</p>

<p>I paid for that bandwidth or at least I think I did and I believe leaching from it to give 8&#215;8 some special privilege is leaching from me. In MY opinion (if not a lawyers) promising me &#8220;best effort&#8221; service can ONLY mean that BellSouth (ATT, et al.) don&#8217;t deliberately eat up bandwidth that they sold me. And that should include offering &#8220;prioritizeation&#8221; to their favored few or even their own directly-owned product.</p>

<p>Is that ok? If so how do you reason about it? And how is it true that they aren&#8217;t selling something to their 8&#215;8 partner (or themselves should that come to pass) that they already sold me?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jonty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;A few days ago, I pointed out the double standards Federal Communications Commission has when it comes to dealing with with the phone companies and cable operators&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;FCC has double standards on VoIP companies too, though it didn`t take any major step after the deadline passed away. We posted a cartoon on double standards of FCC -
http://voipcentral.org/entry/fcc-vs-voip-players-a-take/&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;A few days ago, I pointed out the double standards Federal Communications Commission has when it comes to dealing with with the phone companies and cable operators</p>

<p>FCC has double standards on VoIP companies too, though it didn`t take any major step after the deadline passed away. We posted a cartoon on double standards of FCC -
<a href="http://voipcentral.org/entry/fcc-vs-voip-players-a-take/" rel="nofollow">http://voipcentral.org/entry/fcc-vs-voip-players-a-take/</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;So the commish might still do some pro-consumer stuff in case the Bells turn ‘naughty’.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Never.  Telcos would have to get into genocide.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This FCC is 100% pro-telco, anti-regulation - to a fault.  The closest they get to consumer protection is a tersely worded pdf issued by Commissioner Copps now and again.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;People should be very worried about this new telco move, and the apparent apathy coming from the FCC.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So the commish might still do some pro-consumer stuff in case the Bells turn ‘naughty’.&#8221;</p>

<p>Never.  Telcos would have to get into genocide.</p>

<p>This FCC is 100% pro-telco, anti-regulation &#8211; to a fault.  The closest they get to consumer protection is a tersely worded pdf issued by Commissioner Copps now and again.</p>

<p>People should be very worried about this new telco move, and the apparent apathy coming from the FCC.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;moo, come on, what are the odds of that happening. i don&#039;t think that is the case at all. i am increasingly worried about that not being the case.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>moo, come on, what are the odds of that happening. i don&#8217;t think that is the case at all. i am increasingly worried about that not being the case.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: moo</title>
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		<dc:creator>moo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So the commish might still do some pro-consumer stuff in case the Bells turn &#039;naughty&#039;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the commish might still do some pro-consumer stuff in case the Bells turn &#8216;naughty&#8217;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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