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Google redressed Urchin web analytics software and released it as Google Analytics. It seems to be quite a hit, that the company had to close the applications for the service. I tried signing up for it this morning and found that I was too late to […]

Google redressed Urchin web analytics software and released it as Google Analytics. It seems to be quite a hit, that the company had to close the applications for the service. I tried signing up for it this morning and found that I was too late to the party. I wonder why does Google release products out in the wild and not be prepared for the worst case scenario. (Like the service could actually become a hit?)

Of course there is the more darker explanation – Urchin even when used for a single website was such a beast and siphoned off so many resources, that most of the users (like myself) simply relegated it to once a day update in the early hours of the morning. Is Google suddenly finding out that Urchin doesn’t scale when being used by thousands of users. Frankly, I think Adaptive Path’s Measure Map is a far superior analytical tool, even in its current alpha form. Despite its niggly bits, Measure Map is a tool designed from the ground-up for bloggers and allows them a chance to look at comments, incoming links, users and page views etc in a way that it is actually “human” understandable.

Others like MINT, on which I spent $30 was such a piece of sh*t disappointment, because it just did not work. Support… what is that. Buyer Beware on that one. Anyway… enough of early morning, pre-coffee rantings! (Check out Mark Boulton’s comparison of the three services, and he likes Mint.)

Update: Having slept over it, decided that sh*t was too strong a word.

  1. You think Measure Map is far superior…in comparison to what? Never mind that you still havent get the chance to try out Google Analytic (being an ex Urchin user doesnt count). ^_^

    I’m sure MM will be great when it comes out. But I wont put it as a comparative statement cuz I’ve never used it before.

    Mint is a piece of s***? I think its ok. I would look more into the contributions Mint (or S.Inman) has brought to the web community. Before Mint, no one even cares to ‘beautify’ their stat report.

    Just my 2 cents. And i think its great now that we have three top stats engine to choose from. It’s a good problem. Still remember the days when we have to decide between using awstats or webalizer? Ew.

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  2. you are right. i am comparing it with my previous urchin experience. and other stat packages that have been so far standard on the web servers

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  3. Oh man, dissin’ the Mint??? That is interesting to hear you didn’t have a good experience with it. Haven’t heard many reports of that. To me, it’s by far the best stats program out there for people who just want a nice easy, attractive window into their recent site activity.

    If you don’t mind me asking, what did you find to be the problem with it? It just didn’t install correctly?

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  4. mike, it was so difficult. after installing it would just not work. we could not even log into the damn thing. my sysadmin who is a genius and i had many frustrating days trying to get it to work. despite repeated emails, we go one email back from the developer. believe me we did everything we needed to do with the install. nothing…. just simply nothing.

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  5. I like Google Analytics, but I am waiting for Measure Map because the reviews are really great.

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  6. That’s interesting, I was assigned the Google Analytics id “UA-96102-1″, which made me wonder – “are there just 3898 slots left?” And I’m the early adopter of all early adopters of all things Google.

    I think the software in good but could use more features and less weird marketing stuff, especially for casual webmasters and bloggers like myself.

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  7. Good. Maybe now they will have time to process the stats for those of us who did manage to sign up. Still waiting for Tuesday’s stats to show up…

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  8. Well, MeasureMap provides real URLs where users came from.

    Google Analytics defaults to the server name, which is completely unusable.

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  9. So far I’m liking Measure Map, though I haven’t quite got the post and comment stats to work with Textpattern yet. Other than that it is pretty good and I think it’s just what I need.

    Haven’t tried Mint yet but from what I have heard it’s pretty good.

    Google Analytics, looks nice but I found it to be a bit more tailored to businesses and at first glance it was a little confusing.

    But each has their strengths and weaknesses and it all boils down to what you need.

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  10. [...] Well, there’s more of an excuse with hardware that needs to be ready for the holiday season than websites that could have been launched a week later with more capacity. (via Om Malik) Posted: November 19, 2005 by Nathan Weinberg in: [...]

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  11. Om, “piece of shit” is pretty strong for something that, by your own admission, you haven’t really been able to try. I’m sorry if you had installation problems and we weren’t able to work them out satisfactorily. I’m at Cre824 at the moment but when I get home and have access to my full inbox I’ll take another look.

    Did you post on or search the Mint Forum for a solution? I find it very hard to believe that a “genius” sys admin couldn’t get to the root of the issue when more than 2,000 users–including complete novices–can get it up and running without incident.

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  12. Shaun, we tried everything. perhaps i can get you the exact emails of what was going on. it was not installation that was an issue, instead it was the whole issue of not being able to simply log-in. to say that i was disappointed doesn’t sum up my feelings, especially after the product was so highly recommended by people who i respect a lot.

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  13. Wow, the first post that throw sh*t on Mint! I rarely saw that in blogosphere :). I actually wanted to go with it but then decided to go with delineate and google analytic (yeah, I’m the lucky few who got there in time :P)

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  14. I was disapointed with Google Analytics. I signed up in the first hour, and it took 72 hours to start showing some data. After that AdWords and AdSense started the account unification, so I though, oh well, might as well use the same account on Analytics. Installed the code in the same place in my header pages, and it’s been 5 days without data.

    Very very disapointing…

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  15. well, m. freitas since i have not been able to check it, I don’t know. given my past experience with urchin, well…..

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  16. I’m interested in trying Mint, but can someone tell me how it compares with Nettracker Lite (which I currently use and is free) or Webtrends? The demo on Mint’s website appears to be currently disabled, so I cannot see what features it has.

    One feature I’m particularly interested in is being able to dig deeper into my site and see the refferers to a page one click down.

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  17. Having used Webtrends, Urchin, Google Analytics, and Mint, I’d much prefer Mint anyday for blog and non-enterprise web tracking. Mint was probably one of the easiest web apps I’ve ever installed. Far easier than WordPress or MT.

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  18. [...] 真是「手快有手慢冇ã€?,據 OM Malik’s Blog 說 Google Analytics 經已暫å?œæŽ¥å?—新登記,è¦?有待å?¦è¡Œé€šçŸ¥ï¼Œå¹¸å¥½æˆ‘早些時候已經登記了。 [...]

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  19. check my analytics out after almost 3 weeks. I had signed up as soon as google released it. But then i forgot. Now, I am in india and I suddenly thought will check it up after reading your post. And voila, am I not impressed. this is the first time I am using such a service and my first reaction is ‘wow’ someone is reading me … :-)

    check out this pic to see what I am saying
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/vinu/66572966/

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  20. I was lucky to sign up and get an account, since then it has gone downhill I now get no graphs and the stats presented are clearly wrong..

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  21. [...] Google snor åt sig allt större marknadsandelar. Skapar kvalitativa tjänster till höger och vänster. Senast en mycket omtalad statistiktjänst. Den blir anstormad, givetvis, och går ner på knä. När ska dom lära sig? [...]

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  22. i finally got an invitation to analytics. but it is very slow and for the past two days i have not managed to view the reports on dariro.co.zw. I also use ritecounter.com, which is quite fast and suffice for my purposes rite now. i want analytics coz ritecounter is still beta and u never know what will happen when they are out of beta

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  23. Google Analytics invites were (finally) opened up to everyone a few months back — glad to see they finally got the scalability issues resolved!

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