Babble not Bubble 2.0*

Om Malik, Friday, November 18, 2005 at 3:43 PM PT Comments (18)

John Battelle in an op-ed for The New York Times argues that we are not in a bubble, but instead we are building a better boom. Looking back over past few years, John argues that things have changed for the better. Open source software, commodity hardware and the ever falling prices of hardware have been game changers.

These emerging trends, were chronicled by me in pages of Business 2.0, first in The Rise of The Insta-Company, and then, The New Road To Riches and Escape from Silicon Valley. My colleague Michael Copeland and I had written two stories - The Fifth Wave and The Tech’s Big Comeback in recent months. What we point out that what were emerging trends are now a given.

John today, and Michael Parekh yesterday argue that the Web 2.0 is not in a bubble. I agree - so far it is not a bubble. But it can very quickly become one. Less than $200 million invested and some $100 million worth of exits. Not a bubble. Of course, those who have had successful - Flickr, OddPost and Weblogs Inc - most were built in the throes of what I call Internet depression. And raised minimal outside investments and bootstrapped. (Less is More!)

Looking forward, there are some signs that make you go… oh! oh!

The recent frenzy to fund say five to-do-lists, or five video hosting sites or whatever. What we have is “Babble 2.0.” We are talking about these new tiny-tots in breathless tones ( I am guilty as charged!) and talking a lot… all the time. We are not asking the “show me the money questions.” That is giving VC community some kind of a nervous tic, and an itch to invest … as much as they can… now. I think the babble is leading to over investments, and hence the general sense of a bubble.

There is a chance of things getting out of control. Here is a scary statistic sent to me by the law firm of Foley & Lardner LLP. They surveyed top executives, advisors, outside consultants and investors in the emerging technology industry, and were told by 75% of the respondents that in these days of stagnant, post-bubble IPO M&A is the only exit. Wow… can there be so many M&A deals?

I think being nervous and cautious is a good thing. I love innovation, I love new ideas, and I love a happy, growing Silicon Valley. What I don’t like is what happened in 2000. No I don’t like entrepreneurs getting hurt, getting dispirited. Just because someone had to put too much money to work!

[ * ] Babble 2.0, first used by none other than Jason Fried. Copy right… Mr. Fried.

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18 comments so far

November 18th, 2005
3:46 PM PT
November 18th, 2005
3:51 PM PT
Om Malik said:

Made amends. Must read your blog more often…. sorry about that.

November 18th, 2005
3:56 PM PT
Jason Fried said:

No need to apologize! Glad the Babble meme is spreading.

November 18th, 2005
4:18 PM PT

The Tower of Babble 2.0

It’s funny, my boss e-mailed this story to me at about the same time as I saw this post from Om Malik, referencing John Battelle’s story in the New York Times (free reg req) which argues that we’re at the…

November 18th, 2005
4:33 PM PT

Web 2.0 is a movement, not a bubble

Well I sure seem to be on a web 2.0 kick these days and the more I read the more I wonder if it is a bubble or a movement.
Stowe Boyd writes in “John Battelle on Building a Better Boom�:

“….and the missionary zeal that seems to pervade the …

November 18th, 2005
4:38 PM PT

A long Lasting Bubble?

Umair at bubblegeneration makes a good point:
“Because, attention becomes scarce at the margins. Attention used to be like water for the media industry- cheap, plentiful, and pretty much available ubiquitously. Now it’s like oil- expensive, scarc…

November 18th, 2005
5:33 PM PT
Zach Coelius said:

I think John is right and wrong. This is not a “bubbleâ€? like it was last time. No doubt. But “bubblesâ€?-that is self-reinforcing excitement among a group of people that cause them to do things they would not normally- are a naturally occurring phenomenon whenever there are lots of people doing the same thing. It is the nature of the beast. And whether John wants to admit it or not, there is certainly a self-reinforcing excitement out here. That excitement is causing lots of people to try and start companies who would not normally take the risk. And as a result of the new eco-system that John and you have pointed out, there are going to be some amazing successes. And as soon as the investors start noticing all the good stuff we are doing they will get excited as well. That is going to result in a “bubbleâ€?. Or what it really ought to be called is the normal cyclical nature of business. We are on the way up again. So John’s right about the particulars and wrong about what it all means.

November 19th, 2005
11:00 AM PT
Jay said:

Funny, it was only yesterday when I blogged about how there is been recently some not so great - not so stupid funding being done. I do see some traits that show possibility that we are heading towards it.
http://www.jaypatel.net/2005/11/another-suicide.html

November 19th, 2005
6:31 PM PT

[...] 2: I’m not the only one asking if Web 2.0 is a Bubble. Here’s Om Malik of Business 2.0 magazine asking the same thing. Filed under: Blog Stuff,Entrepreneurial @ 4:27 pm # [...]

November 20th, 2005
12:37 AM PT
POP! PR Jots said:

Do Web 2.0 Companies Have Launch Parties?

They do, if they are Riya. They also buy too much swag, which really does not seem to be Web 2.0. Well, it is actually not just the launch party and swag that has me scratching my head in confusion - it is that the launch party seems to represent a r…

November 21st, 2005
1:18 AM PT

Where is the Pets.com of Web 2.0?

The question, Are we in another bubble? continues to circulate around the blogosphere. Recent answers are mostly flavors of no (for example, Scoble, Battelle, Malik). So let’s ask the question, what would qualify as a yes? Measured by the

November 21st, 2005
7:06 PM PT

On Web 2.0: Where are we going?

Look, no one is happy about the name. Even Scoble hates the name, but the word in everyone’s mind is “bubble”. Is Web 2.0 leading us down the path that we traveled down in the late nineties? Om Malik sounds cautiously optimistic say…

November 21st, 2005
7:06 PM PT

[...] Look, no one is happy about the name. Even Scoble hates the name, but the word in everyone’s mind is “bubble”. Is Web 2.0 leading us down the path that we traveled down in the late nineties? Om Malik sounds cautiously optimistic saying “so far it is not a bubble. But it can very quickly become one.” He continues, The recent frenzy to fund say five to-do-lists, or five video hosting sites or whatever. What we have is “Babble 2.0.â€? We are talking about these new tiny-tots in breathless tones (I am guilty as charged!) and talking a lot… all the time. We are not asking the “show me the money questions.â€? That is giving VC community some kind of a nervous tic, and an itch to invest …. as much as they can… now. I think the babble is leading to over investments, and hence the general sense of a bubble. [...]

December 6th, 2005
4:14 PM PT

[...] As part of my virtual visit to Les Blogs, I recorded a video which discussed these issues briefly. What worries me the most is “the me-too nature of the companies,” features posing as products and eventually companies and what not. These are signs of what could be excessive froth, as Louis points out. (Steven Borsch has a good post on this as well!) [...]

December 14th, 2005
8:28 AM PT

[...] In one sense, there are already those comparing Web 2.0 to the dot-com boom of the 90s. In fact there has been talk of a “Web 2.0 bubble” (or babble?) and some already predicting its bursting. Normally I tend not to agree with these folks, as most of the Web 2.0 products I have seen so far seem to be developed by a relatively small number of people with a relatively small amount of money, not necessarily aimed at going super-public as quickly as possible. Then again, I sure hope no one invested in Fuzzster…that might be a bad sign. But hey, if there’s a market, I guess more power to them. [...]

August 14th, 2006
2:56 PM PT
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December 9th, 2006
4:24 PM PT
ilker yoldas said:

@Zach Coelius. i totally disagree with you. the web 2.0 is not just a hype made by a bunch of people.. we already know what internet is about and what it is capable of doing in the future. back then it was a new thing that made it a technology driven boom.. with web 2.0 there is nothing revolutionary.. just some fancy buttons and more usability, thats all! oh, and dont forget that the growing number of users is a fact measured with much more accurate tools today.

@Om Malik: a great read! someone posted this on my related blog entry, http://ilkeryoldas.blogspot.com/2006/12/web-20-another-dot-com-boom.html

March 31st, 2007
12:33 AM PT

[...] dabei vor allem, dass sie sich selbst gut vermarkten kann. Langsam wächst die Skepsis was an Babble 2.0 dran ist, dem grossen Gerede der Marketingleute von einem reformierten, besseren Internet. So [...]

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