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I am at the Search SIG down in Mountain View listening to the founders of some of the new vertical search engines including Healthline, Simply Hired, Trulia and Truveo. There were nearly 20% people in the room who were building search engines. When I asked these […]

I am at the Search SIG down in Mountain View listening to the founders of some of the new vertical search engines including Healthline, Simply Hired, Trulia and Truveo. There were nearly 20% people in the room who were building search engines. When I asked these panelists whose search engines are basically are scraping other sites, cannibalizing the folks that provide the “content” for their sites, what was their exit strategy? Answer – dead silence. I was saying this earlier in the day, on this Web 2.0 highway, there are three exits: Microsoft, Yahoo and Google. And that simply sums up the single biggest problem with Web 2.0. Niall says Google mentioned every five minutes!

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  1. jason goldberg Friday, November 11, 2005

    could not agree more!

    the silicon valley economy should not revolve around a great google hope, no more than the seattle economy should not revolve around a great msgt hope. build long lasting sustainable businesses or web 2.0 will be the biggest joke since, well sock puppets.

  2. aw c’mon Om… not quite fair, since the panel did address a similar question earlier in the session…

    when asked about acquisition vs IPO about 15 minutes prior, the panelists responded with various takes on what the possible prospects were, and they also indicated that it was still fairly early and they were still exploring monetization via advertising, lead generation, and other potential areas as they matured.

    i think perhaps the silence was more due to there not being any definite answers to exit, more than any specific expectations of a flip to Google (or Yahoo or Microsoft).

    while i’d agree those are 3 very likely candidates with acquisition agendas (as are other lesser lights EBAY, AMZN, IACI, AOL), they’re not the only game in town.

    all 4 of the companies represented tonight focused on multi-billion dollar markets (employment, real estate, healthcare, television/video), all of have significant %’s of spending moving online.

    certainly each of those markets can support multiple independent businesses at substantial valuations, regardless of what G/Y/M decide they want to do.

    sure, while the Empire spreads its wings across most of the known landscape, it’s easy for folks to suggest that all roads lead to Rome — but the shipping lanes of the New World weren’t dominated by Romans.

    there were empires before Google, and there will be empires after Google. regardless, there will always be roads less traveled that lead to rich and plentiful lands, unknown to today’s centurions.

    hail caesar? ahh…. screw that shit.

    set course for first star to the left, and straight on til morning.

    – dave mcclure
    http://www.SimplyHired.com

  3. Hey Om –

    Wow, can’t buy a link on your blog, even in a round-up! ;-)

    Actually, I think the official reason you got a silent response was because JohnB had just asked the question a moment before.

    Great seeing you again; will you be at the TechCrunch BBQ next Friday?

    tony

  4. Looking at the web stats from my little site, I can see your point about being “cannabilized”. Maybe its time for the free lunch to end and for me to start doing some major kung-fu on my robots.txt file. How much is access to individual web sites worth to these new search engines?

  5. tony… honest mistake. fixed. also lets catch up in the city. it should be fun

  6. dave, what was said earlier was a mealy mouthed politically correct statement. that’s all. it was not an answer. hence me asking the question…. again!

  7. Om-

    GYME is a better sounding acronym. Eh tu Dave? ‘Lesser light’ heh. You’d think with the Skype acquisition eBay would be a big blazing pulsar of an acquirer.

  8. hey ro: EBAY likely an acquirer in more focused areas; however i’d agree with Om that acquisition aspirations for Yahoo / Google / Microsoft are likely all across the board.

    at least to date, EBAY hasn’t staked its claim as a broad-based portal destination / search company. (altho i certainly agree with you that it could be — and i tried to make a strong case for moving in that direction while i was there… i would imagine that’s part of the reason why Louis Monier left to join Google).

    eBay does seem to be making more aggressive moves these days with Skype deal & Kijiji & Verisign acquisition, but i’d say they are still more narrowly focused on shopping & payments than on a broader search portal / destination strategy that G, Y, & M are all aiming for.

    anyway: it’s not a bad strategy, just a more specific one.

  9. blackrimglasses.com » Om Malik’s Broadband Blog — » Web 2.0 Exit… what is that? Friday, November 11, 2005

    [...] Om Malik’s Broadband Blog — » Web 2.0 Exit… what is that? Couldn’t agree more. Is anyone focused on building an actual company anymore? Does anyone else wish for a 36 hour day, like me? by Black Rim Glasses | posted in running Trackback URL | Comment RSS Feed Tag at del.icio.us | Incoming links [...]

  10. isn’t the vertical search result – because of its derivative nature – much more difficult to monetise than a classified database query, esp in a cpa world? and won’t that factor reduce exit opportunities, esp in big-ticket-item categories?
    imho monetisation of the fixed-format structure of classifieds will be much easier than the non-format derivative listing in search engines. trulia tends to take its content straight from the local press websites, which often take it straight from the local MLS. isn’t realtor.com a much more focused and traceable destination for cpa dollars?

  11. >isn’t the vertical search result – because of its derivative nature – much more difficult to monetise than a classified database query, esp in a cpa world?

    That makes no sense. If a vertical search engine is targeted at say realtors or engineers, then the cpc bidding should only be higher since ad buyers know more about the type of lead they’re getting…

  12. chad is correct.

    travel search & shopping search have already demonstrated successful arbitrage thru buying traffic from Google & Yahoo, increasing customer value through vertical development, and generating leads at higher roi.

    vertical search engines by definition identify more narrow, specific, detailed user profiles & specific needs (house, job, vacation, retail purchase), and thus typically generate a higher value customer than from a generic search engine.

    all search (generic or vertical) is ‘derivative’, in that search engines index data from multiple external sources. the ability to monetize traffic is based more on breadth of audience, depth of user profile & user engagement, compelling & comprehensive data, and ultimately on the value of transactions generated from relevant search results & vertical applications.

    – dave mcclure
    http://www.simplyhired.com

  13. Om:

    I think you’re being awfully presumptuous here.

    First there are a lot more companies than the three you mentioned (IAC, Fox, AOL…the list goes on) who are looking at companies here..

    More importantly, you could have made the same derisive remark about craigslist, juniper or yahoo at one point or another in their existence — and yet they all remain independent.

    Finally, what kind of fool would have given you the answer you stated above? I mean, jeez,what was that, some kind of litmus test for stupid executives? Even (especially) if any of these guys were doing that, they’d say something else.

    If the search business has taught us anything, it’s that things aren’t as sewn up as conventional wisdom might have you think…

    -CST

  14. chris, let me answer your questions here. the companies you are mentioning are looking to buy companies that have little or nothing to do with the se start-ups. all you have to do is read their recent statements.

    secondly, there is a clear difference between these start-ups and craigslist, juniper and yahoo. those were companies that had their own defenisble IP, a new way of doing things and clear cut strategy.

    derisive…. it was a simple question: what’s the exit. it is the first thing one has to think of when building a “capitalistic” for profit enterprise. that’s the whole point.

    presumptous? no i asked a question, that needed to be asked.

  15. Om:

    Ask Jeeves, MySpace, Livejournal were all acquired recently by folks not google, yahoo, or microsoft (and I’d point out that Topix.net with a news search play received a nice chunk of investment from the newspaper industry). SimplyHired — clearly interesting to anyone looking at a classified play. Truveo (video search)? IAC, Fox, Sony etc… Healthline could be interesting to a variety of non search folks. Trulia..again, smells like classifieds.

    Also, seems like you’re according a lot more strategy-in-hindsight here… Yahoo went through several pretty major gyrations in strategy along the way to being what it is today (which is why there was an opportunity for five guys to build dmoz.org in 1998) and you tell me what the “exit” is for craigslist. I’m sure some of the newspaper folks would be dying to find out :-).

    I think Gautham covered it pretty well — Keeping your options open is the best strategy.

    Mind you, I always like your refreshing candor in public (especially when I’m not on the hot seat)…but I don’t think it’s quite so simple as that.

    How about this — I bet you $1 (and a public “I was wrong” by the loser) that one of these guys is acquired by someone *other* than Microsoft, Yahoo or Google. If they go public, it goes to me. If they disappear, it’s a wash, and if they’re acquired by someone, who *then* is acquired by Microsoft, Yahoo or Google within a year (a la Coolboard and Onelist) you win. What do you think?

    -CST

  16. chris, well i take your bet and will see what happens. one caveat – healthline which can go WebMD, or one of the medical sites. Apart from that I think it is going to be an interesting next 12 months.

  17. actually i would love to raise stakes to $2 and a beer, if you tell us who are the likely buyers of these players. chris, that should be a fair one ;-)

  18. and if we get bought or go IPO, i’ll pick up the tabs for the beers ;)

  19. I think Warren Buffett’s old analogy of “Mr. Market” holds true here. From time to time, Mr. Market will come to you and offer to buy your business. Sometimes he will be optimistic and offer you a lot of money. Sometimes he will be pessimistic and offer you very little.

    You are never obligated to sell to him. If you like your business, and you don’t like his offer, you should keep running it until you get a price that you do like.

    Now, that being said, I agree with Om that lots of folks are now starting companies under the theory that GYM (and I’d add another M for Murdoch) will buy them out. But even if they’re not happy with what Mr. Market ends up offering them, I’m still happy that people are creating great new services for me to use!

  20. Well, the point of my earlier bet was that I don’t think we’re at a place where all the buyers have identified themselves, nor do I think it’s impossible for one of these guys to break free and be a stand alone entity (although, it’s always hardto do that). So — I’m not going for the $2 upgrade to prognostidigitator extraordinaire, and merely going to bank on (my bet) that there guys will not nerely be meat for GYM (as you put it)…

    So…for the record..$1, and I’ll even allow the exception of Healthline here.

    Get out the popcorn. Maybe Dave will allow us to do the cage match at the next SearchSIG.

    -CST

  21. Ian Murdock’s Weblog » “Small pieces loosely joined” and Web 2.0 Sunday, November 13, 2005

    [...] Om Malik: “[O]n this Web 2.0 highway, there are three exits: Microsoft, Yahoo and Google.” [...]

  22. I love this site, and I am a fan of Web 2.0. People usually mention the big 3: Google, Yahoo and Microsoft, when they talk about web 2.0. Any listed smallcap name that can be considered as a play on Web 2.0? Maybe a company that the big 3 will be interested in acquiring?

  23. Hitchhiker’s Guide to 650 :: Achilles Heel(s) of Vertical Search Applications :: November :: 2005 Monday, November 14, 2005

    [...] For content providers, the main value proposition of vertical search engine is simply traffic. The problem with vertical search engines is that most of them do not have the traffic scale of Google to be able to hold content owner hostage – preventing site owners from closing their site to search engines despite of the obvious threat of dis-intermediation. Om has taken up the torch in grilling these guys on this topic at the Search SIG and no one have a good response. (mp3 here). Again, the “out” for vertical search engines is to go the “application” route. The hope is to convince the content owners that veritcal search is creating an application ontop of their content rather than simply adding value through aggregation (which translates to disintermediation). [...]

  24. Chris (Tolles) is correct: if you want to reflect the reality of the market, you need to add eBay, Amazon, NewsCorp, IAC and AOL. And then some.

    Also, I would say that in the current market, M&A is by far the prevalent exit route for venture-backed companies – however mature they are (or not). So yes, the exit for most of these companies will be an acquisition – the question is more: how soon/early.

    Good to have you with us at the SIG :-).

  25. Search SIG: Battelle on Search

    Thanks to the 200 people who joined us for the November session of the Search SIG. I found it extremely interesting and engaging, and want to thank Dan Farber, Adam Beguelin, Pete Flint, Gautam Modwhani and Tony Gentile for this. A special and warm th…

  26. Vaibhav – Lavarithms Tuesday, November 15, 2005

    Om, you are right on here. The acquirers may be GYM or the others mentioned here, which is really not the most critical point.

    The more interesting one is that so many vertical search plays are getting VC-funded when it is fairly clear that there do not have anything but acquistion as an exit strategy.

    Its tough to imagine SimplyHired (for example) go public – huge downside is the sites they scrape stop allowing them to do so (like Craigslist did to Oodle), they are done. Metadata is of no value when the basic foundation is so fragile. And GYM can “easily” come up with this metadata, just like so many competitors have already done. (No offense, Dave!)

    Something like a Healthline is way more attractive – mainly because you can search for health information on Google and get decent results and Google most likely will not pursue to make it super-targeted due to other larger goals. In such a case, plays like Healthline can survive very well. Acquisition or IPO is still an open question.

    Also like one of the comments above, if a a job vertical search site makes money by using a job portals content without delivering as much revenue to the job portal, then its a no-brainer for hte job portal to shut them off. Content, in such cases, is still the key.

    Next 12 months, as you say, will be interesting!

    -Vaibhav

  27. Om Malik : » Babble not Bubble 2.0* Saturday, November 19, 2005

    [...] I think being nervous and cautious is a good thing. I love innovation, I love new ideas, and I love a happy, growing Silicon Valley. What I don’t like is what happened in 2000. No I don’t like entrepreneurs getting hurt, getting dispirited. Just because someone had to put too much money to work! [...]

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  29. Texas Venture Capital Web 2.0 Blog » Blog Archive » Long term or quick flip? Which is better? Tuesday, January 10, 2006

    [...] More links to articles on exit strategies: Venture Math, Succession, Entrepreneur, Web 2.0 Exit, and WebJay.  [...]

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    Samsung SGH E715– US$155
    Samsung SGH-E810– US$140
    Samsung SGH-E820– US$150
    Samsung SGH-E800– US$155
    Samsung SGH-E850– US$140
    Samsung SGH D410– US$150
    Samsung SGH D500– US$155
    Samsung SGH P400– US$135
    Samsung SGH P510– US$139
    Samsung SGH N188– US$110
    Samsung SGH N288– US$60
    Samsung SGH N500– US$60
    Samsung SGH N620– US$60
    Samsung SGH M100– US$45
    Samsung SGH P400– US$140
    Samsung SGH P410– US$145
    Samsung SGH P500– US$155
    Samsung SGH Q105– US$40
    Samsung SGH Q300— US$70
    Samsung SGH R220– US$30
    Samsung SGH R225– US$25
    Samsung SGH S100– US$90
    Samsung SGH S200– US$100
    Samsung SGH S300– US$105
    Samsung SGH S307– US$130
    Samsung SGH S500– US$109
    Samsung SGH T100– US$100
    samsung SGH S105– US$35
    Samsung SGH T200– US$125
    Samsung SGH T400– US$60
    Samsung SGH T500– US$90
    Samsung SGH T700– US$99
    Samsung SGH V200– US$105
    Samsung SGH VM680– US$100
    Samsung SGH X400– US$105
    Samsung SGH X410– US$130
    Samsung SGH X426– US$129
    Samsung SGH-C200– US$125
    Samsung SGH-X460– US$140
    Samsung SGH-X450– US$130
    Samsung SGH-X120– US$99
    Samsung SGH X600– US$145
    Samsung SGH-X610– US$140
    Samsung SGH-Z105– US$120
    Motorola A008– US$50
    Motorola A388– US$70
    Motorola A388c– US$120
    Motorola A820– US$65
    Motorola C330– US$20
    Motorola C331– US$25
    Motorola C332– US$30
    Motorola C333– US$35
    Motorola C350– US$69
    Motorola E360– US$60
    Motorola E365– US$110
    Motorola E380– US$95
    Motorola E398– US$125
    Motorola MPX200– US$180
    Motorola Accompli 008– US$49
    Motorola Timeport 280– US$80
    Motorola T190T– US$25
    Motorola Talkabout 191– US$25
    Motorola T720– US$65
    Motorola T720i– US$85
    Motorola V3Razor– US$145
    Motorola V66– US$60
    Motorola V60– US$70
    Motorola V60i– US$75
    Motorola V70– US$105
    Motorola V80– US$115
    Motorola V290– US$80
    Motorola V750– US$125
    Motorola V3688+– US$20
    Motorola V8088– US$30
    Motorola V525– US$139
    Motorola V300– US$130
    Motorola V400– US$125
    Motorola V500– US$130
    Motorola V600– US$140
    Siemens A35– US$15
    Siemens A40– US$19
    Siemens A50– US$25
    Siemens A52– US$29
    Siemens A55– US$30
    Siemens C45– US$30
    Siemens C55– US$35
    Siemens CL50– US$70
    Siemens CL55– US$65
    Siemens CT56– US$30
    Siemens M50– US$35
    Siemens M55– US$120
    Siemens MC60– US$79
    Siemens ME45– US$50
    Siemens S45– US$60
    Siemens SL42– US$65
    Siemens SL45i– US$69
    Siemens S55– US$85
    Siemens SL55– US$125
    Siemens SX45– US$155
    Siemens SX1– US$180
    Siemens Xelibri 1– US$60
    Siemens Xelibri 2– US$70
    Siemens Xelibri 3– US$110
    Siemens Xelibri 4– US$80
    Siemens Xelibri 5– US$65
    Siemens Xelibri 6– US$85
    Siemens Xelibri 7– US$85
    Siemens Xelibri 8– US$95
    Panasonic G50– US$80
    Panasonic G51– US$95
    Panasonic GD35– US$20
    Panasonic GD52– US$25
    Panasonic GD55– US$49
    Panasonic GD67– US$39
    Panasonic GD75– US$45
    Panasonic GD87– US$125
    Panasonic GD88– US$129
    Panasonic GD90– US$30
    Panasonic GD92– US$30
    Panasonic GD93– US$20
    Panasonic GD95– US$39
    Panasonic X70– US$120
    Panasonic X66– US$110
    Panasonic X68– US$115
    Panasonic A101– US$110
    Panasonic A102– US$120
    Alcatel OneTouch 301– US$20
    Alcatel OneTouch 302– US$25
    Alcatel OneTouch 303– US$30
    Alcatel OneTouch 511– US$35
    Alcatel OT525– US$39
    Alcatel One Touch 501– US20
    Alcatel One Touch 311– US$25
    Alcatel One Touch 701– US$30
    Alcatel One Touch 512– US$40
    Alcatel One Touch 715– US$55
    NEC N830– US$85
    NEC N710– US$70
    NEC C616– US$110
    NEC N900– US$150
    NEC N820– US$80
    NEC N910– US$170
    NEC N700– US$55
    Sharp GX1– US$99
    Sharp GX10– US$100
    Sharp GX10i– US$110
    Sharp GX15– US$110
    Sharp GX20– US$125
    Sharp GX30– US$135
    Philips Fisio 120– US$25
    Philips Fisio 311– US$30
    Philips Fisio 620– US$35
    Philips Fisio 825– US$35
    Philips Ozéo 8@8– US$45
    Philips Xénium– US$45
    Philips Fisio 820 + Kit Blue– US$49
    Nextel i55sr– US$65
    Nextel i2000plus– US$35
    Nextel i58sr– US$30
    Nextel i530– US$35
    Nextel i205– US$20
    Nextel i305– US$25
    Nextel i35s– US$29
    Nextel i88– US$30
    Nextel i90– US$59
    Nextel i95cl– US$70
    Nextel i60c– US$40
    Nextel 6510TM– US$110
    Nextel i730– US$85
    Nextel i733– US$95
    Nextel i736– US$105
    Nextel i830– US$115
    Nextel i860– US$125
    Nextel i930– US$140
    Audiovox 8500– US$30
    Audiovox 8300– US$39
    Audiovox 9100– US$15
    Audiovox 9150– US$75
    Audiovox 9155– US$35
    kyocera 5135– US$10
    kyocera 2035– US$25
    kyocera 2135– US$25
    kyocera 7135– US$125
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    MINA K. KAWU
    SALES & MARKETING DEPARTMENT MANAGER.

    ASIAN ELECTRONICS MOBILE PHONES & LAPTOPS COMPANY.LTD.

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    Apple iPod nano 2GB Black MP3 Player….$100USD
    Apple iPod Video 30GB Black MP3 Player…$1oousd
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    Apple iPod Mini 4GB 18hour battery – Pink MP3 Player…$120usd
    Apple iPod nano 4GB Black MP3 Player….$150usd
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    Samsung HP-R4252 Television……..$500USD
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    Samsung LN-R408D – LCD TV – 40….$800usd
    Samsung LT-P326W – LCD TV – 32….$650usd
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    NOKIA 6250(UNLOCK)– US$110
    NOKIA 6500(CR)UNLOCK–US$90
    NOKIA 6510(UNLOC)– US$125
    NOKIA 6590[C/R]UNLOCK–US$75
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    NOKIA 6310i(UNLOCK)– US$100
    NOKIA 6610(UNLOCK)– US$100
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    NOKIA 7110(UNLOCK)– US$100
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    NOKIA 7650(UNLOCK)– US$120
    NOKIA 7270(UNLOCK)– US$220
    NOKIA 7280(UNLOCK)– US$250
    NOKIA 8310(UNLOCK)– US$100
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    NOKIA 7600(UNLOCK)–US$170
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    NOKIA 8850 SPECIAL EDITION– US$105
    NOKIA 8850 GOLD EDITION– US$100
    NOKIA 8910 Black– US$110
    NOKIA 9210 Communicator– US$110
    NOKIA 9210i Communicator– US$110
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    SONY ERICSSON T68m– US$79
    SONY ERICSSON T610– US$109
    SONY CMD-MZ5– US$139
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    SONY ERICSSON P900(UNLOCK)—US$200
    SONY ERICSSON P980i(UNLOCK)—US$200
    MOTOROLA V300[UNLOCK]C/R– US$100
    MOTOROLA V400[UNLOCK]C/R– US$115
    MTOROLA T720 C/R[CINGULAR]–US$80
    MOTOROLA V600—US$120
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    SAMSUNG SGH-T500 Champagne– US$100
    SAMSUNG SGH-V200– US$110
    SAMSUNG SGH-T200– US$110
    SAMSUNG SGH-R225 TRIBAND –US$95
    SAMSUNG SGH-S307 850/1900–US$110
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    i95cl — 130USD
    i30sx — 13USD
    i88s — 70USD
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    M9803LL/A””””””””””””””’us$68.00
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    M9801LL/A””””””””””””””us$68.00
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    M9435LL/A”””””””””””””””us$49.00
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    nano””””””””””””””””””””””’us$62.00
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    M9160LL/A”””””””””””””””us$49.00
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    M9830LL/A”””””””””””””””””’us$86.00
    Apple 60 GB iPod
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    M9829LL/A””””””””””””””””””us$73.00
    Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player
    M9724LL/A”””””””””””’us$56.00
    Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue
    M9436LL/A”””””””””””””””””us$49.00
    Apple 20 GB iPod U2 Special
    Edition”””””””””””””””””’us$73.00
    Apple 6 GB iPod Mini Green
    M9807LL/A”””””””””””””””””us$64.00
    NEW apple 60 GB video ipod””””””””’us$140.00
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    M9829LL/A””””””””””””””””””us$73.00
    Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player
    M9724LL/A”””””””””””’us$56.00
    Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue
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    Apple 6 GB iPod Mini Green
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    NOKIA 6100(UNLOCK)– US$100
    NOKIA 6600(UNLOCK)– US$200
    NOKIA 6210(UNLOCK)– US$80
    NOKIA 6250(UNLOCK)– US$110
    NOKIA 6500(CR)UNLOCK–US$90
    NOKIA 6510(UNLOC)– US$125
    NOKIA 6590[C/R]UNLOCK–US$75
    NOKIA 6310(UNLOCK)– US$110
    NOKIA 6310i(UNLOCK)– US$100
    NOKIA 6610(UNLOCK)– US$100
    NOKIA 6800(UNLOCK)– US$110
    NOKIA 7110(UNLOCK)– US$100
    NOKIA 7210 Turquoise(UNLOCK)– US$120
    NOKIA 7250(UNLOCK)– US$160
    NOKIA 7260(UNLOCK)– US$180
    NOKIA 7650(UNLOCK)– US$120
    NOKIA 7270(UNLOCK)– US$220
    NOKIA 7280(UNLOCK)– US$250
    NOKIA 8310(UNLOCK)– US$100
    NOKIA 8390 1900 MHZ –US$95
    NOKIA 7600(UNLOCK)–US$170
    NOKIA 8910 Titanium– US$100
    NOKIA 8850 SPECIAL EDITION– US$105
    NOKIA 8850 GOLD EDITION– US$100
    NOKIA 8910 Black– US$110
    NOKIA 9210 Communicator– US$110
    NOKIA 9210i Communicator– US$110
    NOKIA 8910i– US$150
    SONY ERICSSON T616 850/1900 –US$180
    SONY ERICSSON R520m(UNLOCK)– US$89
    SONY CMD-Z5– US$89
    SONY ERICSSON R380 World– US$89
    SONY ERICSSON R380s– US$69
    SONY ERICSSON T68m– US$79
    SONY ERICSSON T610– US$109
    SONY CMD-MZ5– US$139
    SONY ERICSSON P800(UNLOCK)– US$180
    SONY ERICSSON P900(UNLOCK)—US$200
    SONY ERICSSON P980i(UNLOCK)—US$200
    MOTOROLA V300[UNLOCK]C/R– US$100
    MOTOROLA V400[UNLOCK]C/R– US$115
    MTOROLA T720 C/R[CINGULAR]–US$80
    MOTOROLA V600—US$120
    SAMSUNG SGH-A500– US$150
    SAMSUNG SGH-T500 Champagne– US$100
    SAMSUNG SGH-V200– US$110
    SAMSUNG SGH-T200– US$110
    SAMSUNG SGH-R225 TRIBAND –US$95
    SAMSUNG SGH-S307 850/1900–US$110
    SAMSUNG V205[USED]TRIMODE–US$65
    i90c — 95USD
    i95cl — 130USD
    i30sx — 13USD
    i88s — 70USD
    i35s — 30USD
    i58sr –75USD
    i2000 — 60USD
    i830–120USD
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    MY X7 $130
    MY X 8 $150
    MYC5-2 $120
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  36. Home Theater Video Projector Tuesday, November 14, 2006

    Dave…

    Interesting topic… I’m working in this industry myself and I don’t agree about this in 100%, but I added your page to my bookmarks and hope to see more interesting articles in the future…

  37. yes, at least there are 3 engines. It would be good if someone came up with a search portal for phone numbers around the world.

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