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		<title>By: How CBS and NBC got it wrong &#171; chris . word</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/11/08/the-tv-show-download-bunkum/#comment-469465</link>
		<dc:creator>How CBS and NBC got it wrong &#171; chris . word</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 04:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] November 9th, 2005    even though they seem like they are trying to do the right thing. it appears that greed trumps innovation yet again. i&#8217;ll let om tell it like it is. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] November 9th, 2005    even though they seem like they are trying to do the right thing. it appears that greed trumps innovation yet again. i&#8217;ll let om tell it like it is. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Alex Liu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Liu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;wil I pay?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wil I pay?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Eirik Solheim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eirik Solheim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Spot on. And another example of how clueless parts of the television industry actually is.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I illustrated something similar with the story about how Bob the Millionaire became a pirate here:
http://www.eirikso.com/2005/06/06/how-bob-the-millionaire-became-a-pirate/&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on. And another example of how clueless parts of the television industry actually is.</p>

<p>I illustrated something similar with the story about how Bob the Millionaire became a pirate here:
<a href="http://www.eirikso.com/2005/06/06/how-bob-the-millionaire-became-a-pirate/" rel="nofollow">http://www.eirikso.com/2005/06/06/how-bob-the-millionaire-became-a-pirate/</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jesse Kopelman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/11/08/the-tv-show-download-bunkum/#comment-33108</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse Kopelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Another thing you ind of missed, Om, is how big this news is for DirecTV and Comcast. Maybe especially DirecTV, since they don&#039;t even have real broadband solution. Their worst nightmare is that you can buy shows a la carte off the internet and thus not pay them $30-100/month for a bunch of channels you never watch. I&#039;m surprised we haven&#039;t heard from HBO and Showtime yet, they have the most to lose from people illegally sharing their original programing. My message to them, to paraphrase the Bard, get thee to an iTunes!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing you ind of missed, Om, is how big this news is for DirecTV and Comcast. Maybe especially DirecTV, since they don&#8217;t even have real broadband solution. Their worst nightmare is that you can buy shows a la carte off the internet and thus not pay them $30-100/month for a bunch of channels you never watch. I&#8217;m surprised we haven&#8217;t heard from HBO and Showtime yet, they have the most to lose from people illegally sharing their original programing. My message to them, to paraphrase the Bard, get thee to an iTunes!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Thomas Hawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good points Om.  I think a good way to look at these paltry offerings from the network studios is to compare where they are with where the music industry has been:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://thomashawk.com/2005/11/television-executives-stilll-dont-get.html&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points Om.  I think a good way to look at these paltry offerings from the network studios is to compare where they are with where the music industry has been:</p>

<p><a href="http://thomashawk.com/2005/11/television-executives-stilll-dont-get.html" rel="nofollow">http://thomashawk.com/2005/11/television-executives-stilll-dont-get.html</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Wes Felter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wes Felter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Given the small amount of TV that I watch, I&#039;m not interested in paying for a DVR. But I do have VOD and I would pay $1 for a show that I missed. In fact, I&#039;d rather pay $1 for VOD on my TV than $2 to buy the show from iTunes (and be forced to watch it on my computer).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the small amount of TV that I watch, I&#8217;m not interested in paying for a DVR. But I do have VOD and I would pay $1 for a show that I missed. In fact, I&#8217;d rather pay $1 for VOD on my TV than $2 to buy the show from iTunes (and be forced to watch it on my computer).</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 16:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;terry, thanks for that spankdown. well you are right and sorry for not thinking about the affiliates. though i guess since this is the &quot;morning after&quot; offering, they should not be that miffed.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>terry, thanks for that spankdown. well you are right and sorry for not thinking about the affiliates. though i guess since this is the &#8220;morning after&#8221; offering, they should not be that miffed.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Terry Heaton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Heaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 16:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The big news in this announcement is what it does to the network-affiliate relationship, and I think you&#039;ve missed that point here, Om. Although you come close, nobody&#039;s perfect.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The big news in this announcement is what it does to the network-affiliate relationship, and I think you&#8217;ve missed that point here, Om. Although you come close, nobody&#8217;s perfect.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Peer Pressure</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peer Pressure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Media Maelstrom&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cory Doctorow has a great mini-rant over at Boing Boing about the oppressive, and frankly obnoxious, tactics used by the movie industry to squelch all possibility of viewers photographing or filming their precious wares. And here I was postulating that...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Media Maelstrom</strong></p>

<p>Cory Doctorow has a great mini-rant over at Boing Boing about the oppressive, and frankly obnoxious, tactics used by the movie industry to squelch all possibility of viewers photographing or filming their precious wares. And here I was postulating that&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Nicole Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 14:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, again it is only half way.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I would gladly pay for my favorite show an amount of money - not sure if it would be really a dollar - if I could view them some days after they air. But for now I have to wait until their DVD releases and / or for a dubbed version on television.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Which is not in any way my model of choice. I have turned on my TV in the last year for 3 or 4 times, I should sell it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We don&#039;t have those kind of services here, with or without ads. But many like me would like to be able to watch our favorite shows some days after they air and keep on track witht  the original schedule. But we can&#039;t.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t know how many Germans would go online and pay for such a download, but I am one.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well, if they do it good enough. Which means: I can see it when I want and where I want and do not need some crappy DRM to respect just to be able to view what I payed for.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Which is for example why Threshold is uninteresting - only a short period of time to look at it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are big chances and I am fairly sure they will blew it again ...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, again it is only half way.</p>

<p>I would gladly pay for my favorite show an amount of money &#8211; not sure if it would be really a dollar &#8211; if I could view them some days after they air. But for now I have to wait until their DVD releases and / or for a dubbed version on television.</p>

<p>Which is not in any way my model of choice. I have turned on my TV in the last year for 3 or 4 times, I should sell it.</p>

<p>We don&#8217;t have those kind of services here, with or without ads. But many like me would like to be able to watch our favorite shows some days after they air and keep on track witht  the original schedule. But we can&#8217;t.</p>

<p>I don&#8217;t know how many Germans would go online and pay for such a download, but I am one.</p>

<p>Well, if they do it good enough. Which means: I can see it when I want and where I want and do not need some crappy DRM to respect just to be able to view what I payed for.</p>

<p>Which is for example why Threshold is uninteresting &#8211; only a short period of time to look at it.</p>

<p>There are big chances and I am fairly sure they will blew it again &#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ronald Bruintjes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronald Bruintjes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 13:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The best part of the AP news story is the quote from  CBS Chairman Leslie Moonves: &quot;This is an incredibly exciting evolution for CBS and network television - video on demand is the next frontier for our industry.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yes, it may be incredibly exciting to CBS, but old news to the rest of us. It seems they severily limit their audience by only offering this on ComCast. For twice the revenue they could have put it on iTunes, with a much broader audience as a result. I hope they can add that to their distribution channel very soon!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best part of the AP news story is the quote from  CBS Chairman Leslie Moonves: &#8220;This is an incredibly exciting evolution for CBS and network television &#8211; video on demand is the next frontier for our industry.&#8221;</p>

<p>Yes, it may be incredibly exciting to CBS, but old news to the rest of us. It seems they severily limit their audience by only offering this on ComCast. For twice the revenue they could have put it on iTunes, with a much broader audience as a result. I hope they can add that to their distribution channel very soon!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 13:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I actually think this is a bigger deal than you Om.  While you are right that it&#039;s really a press release and won&#039;t generate a ton of dollars, it is interesting in that it shows the truth has finally hit the content companies: people are blowing off their commericals on DVRs.  It is admission, in my mind, that they realize that while the 30 second spot is not dead, revenues from advertising in the future will/may decline.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just a thought!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Damian&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually think this is a bigger deal than you Om.  While you are right that it&#8217;s really a press release and won&#8217;t generate a ton of dollars, it is interesting in that it shows the truth has finally hit the content companies: people are blowing off their commericals on DVRs.  It is admission, in my mind, that they realize that while the 30 second spot is not dead, revenues from advertising in the future will/may decline.</p>

<p>Just a thought!</p>

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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 01:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is from the AP report:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Comcast&#039;s service will be available starting in January to customers in markets with a CBS owned-and-operated television station, which includes the nation&#039;s seven largest media markets. The episodes will be available as early as midnight following a broadcast and will include commercials.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is from the AP report:</p>

<p>&#8220;Comcast&#8217;s service will be available starting in January to customers in markets with a CBS owned-and-operated television station, which includes the nation&#8217;s seven largest media markets. The episodes will be available as early as midnight following a broadcast and will include commercials.&#8221;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jason Grunstra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Grunstra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 00:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;According to the New York Times article &quot;the CBS and NBC shows will be commercial-free&quot;. Who&#039;s right? You or them? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/08/business/media/08demand.html?ex=1289106000&amp;en=0f2c54ebc3eb5b51&amp;ei=5090&amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;emc=rss&quot;&gt;Times&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the New York Times article &#8220;the CBS and NBC shows will be commercial-free&#8221;. Who&#8217;s right? You or them? <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/08/business/media/08demand.html?ex=1289106000&amp;en=0f2c54ebc3eb5b51&amp;ei=5090&amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;emc=rss">Times</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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