Google is making a bid to build a San Francisco-wide free wifi network, according to company officials. The company today filed documents in response to San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom’s request for information for the city wide network. Google’s WiFi plans were first reported by Business 2.0 magazine as part of the GoogleNet article. The company says if its bid is approved, then it is willing to start the work on the network within weeks.
Google officials say San Francisco residents (and visitors) will enjoy a free 300 kilobits per second, always on connection anywhere in the city. As part of its proposal, the company says it will be offering wholesale access to other service providers, who will offer higher throughput connections to their customers. Google says it plans to use its own authentication services. (That explains the Google WiFi VPN client to some extent). The company is going to use San Diego-based WFI, a cellular network builder company to build out the WiFi network.
The company proposes to build a network using third party hardware. Google officials say, its free WiFi plans are restricted only to San Francisco. The company does offer free wifi access in Mountain View and New York’s Bryant Park.
“San Francisco will be a true test bed for location based services and applications,” says Chris Sacca, principal of new business development at Google. While the initial use of location-based services might be limited to more-focussed and targeted advertising, the potential of location-based services is immense, officials said. Sacca pointed out that the network bid was in line with Google’s thinking on delivering answers anytime anywhere to anyone, and looking beyond a desktop PC.
When asked if this puts the company in direct conflict with incumbents like SBC and Comcast, Sacca replied, “I think a few months ago, we might have thought that, but we have talked to them and it seems the thinking is evolving amongst other last mile providers.”
I wonder how it impacts others who want to get involved with the muniwireless space? The Google Talk implications on a free network are quite far reaching, if you ask me, but then that’s just me.
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Interconnected Events
Earlier today Om Malik announced that he was going to take the rest of the day off. Finally I would be able to rest assured that I was not going to have to read any not-yet-announced technical news; he has been scooping just about everyone on what seems
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Google offers a nice birthday present to Om Malik
Essentially confirming a story Om had been writing about for a long time: the GoogleNet. According to this latest piece: Google officials say San Francisco residents (and visitors) will enjoy a free 300 kilobits per second, always on connection anywher…
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Freies WLAN von Google für San Francisco
Google plant offensichtlich ein San-Francisco-weites öffentliches WLAN:Google officials say San Francisco residents (and visitors) will enjoy a free 300 kilobits per second, always on connection anywhere in the city. Das erklärt auch den VPN-Client, …
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Google: San Fran will enjoy free 300kps wif-fi anywhere in the city
Om Malik has some very interesting news:
breaking…. Google is making a bid to build a San
Francisco-wide…
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Has Google just increased the value of every property in SF?
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[...] Om Malik is reporting on his Broadband Blog that Google has filed documents with the city proposing to build a free wifi network in San Francisco. Amazing news and it dovetails nicely with earlier reports of Google wanting to build its own GoogleNet of wifi acces across America. The search giant wants to sell location-based advertising on their service. Other service providers will be able to buy bandwidth wholesale to sell at higher throughput. [...]
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OM pretty slick work I should say. You are the un-official PR man for Google. So do we see Google Phone in SFO , hand held with Google Talk that allows you to touch base pretty much with anybody on your contact list. Perhaps sounds very far-fetched, but definitely is a possibility.
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[When asked if this puts the company in direct conflict with incumbents like SBC and Comcast, Sacca replied, “I think a few months ago, we might have thought that, but we have talked to them and it seems the thinking is evolving amongst other last mile providers.?]
Hmm, so what does the Sacca quote mean? Are they competing with SBC and Comcast or not?
11:22 PM PT
Google’s WiFi plans for SF
We know a bit more tonight about Google’s WiFi plans. Google was one of a bunch of companies that submitted proposals to the city of San Francisco tonight - the deadline was 5 p.m. - to build a community broadband network. Google’s service would be …
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[...] Google offers S.F. Wi-Fi — for free Company’s bid is… [SFGate.com] Google Confirms Free San Francisco WiFi Plans [Om Malik’s broadband blog] Tag: Web | Posted on 10.01.05 9:08 am | [...]
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[...] Google confirms its plans to offer free WiFi access across the whole of San Francisco. How long before it starts deploying such networks across other major US cities? Kind of turns the ISP model of charging for Internet access on its head. Sure, there will be a market for those who want higher bandwidth but if what is on offer is good enough, why pay for more? [...]
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[...] Om Malik’s Broadband Blog » Google Confirms Free San Francisco WiFi Plans. The talk of Google building their own Internet2 keeps building; giving everyone free Wireless is a great way to get everyone inside Google’s sandbox without having to deal with running wires to houses.. [...]
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Herre min je!
Trådlösa stadsnät, Google, it’s all coming together. Om Malik skriver: Google is making a bid to build a San Francisco-wide…
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[...] They have officially put in a bid to build a city wide WiFi network with free access to the always on, 300 Kb/s connection. Wow. And its just gonna keep growing, we all know it… [...]
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Free WiFi in San Francisco, plans Google
It’s no longer a rumour, according to Om Malik:
Google officials say San Francisco residents (and visitors) will enjoy a free 300 kilobits per second, always on connection anywhere in the city. As part of its proposal, the company says it will b…
9:18 AM PT
[...] It’s no longer a rumour, according to Om Malik: Google officials say San Francisco residents (and visitors) will enjoy a free 300 kilobits per second, always on connection anywhere in the city. As part of its proposal, the company says it will be offering wholesale access to other service providers, who will offer higher throughput connections to their customers. Google says it plans to use its own authentication services. (That explains the Google WiFi VPN client to some extent). The company is going to use San Diego-based WFI, a cellular network builder company to build out the WiFi network. [...]
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sweet i can now sit in doleras park and “work”. Muhuahua!
10:21 AM PT
Oh I wish I were in San Fransisco
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Google Bidding on San Francisco Muni Wireless Project
Om Malik: Google Confirms Free San Francisco WiFi Plans. Google officials say San Francisco residents (and visitors) will enjoy a free 300 kilobits pe
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A New Broadband Access Model From Google?
Published reports about Google’s San Francisco WiFi proposal suggest the company is exploring what would essentially be a new model for broadband access, a model Google seems particularly well positioned to pursue. In such a model, Google would u…
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check (tglo.com)new web site with mobil voip and 4.8 mil downloads.
is this new chapter for little skype called TGLO.COM
12:47 PM PT
Google controls access, google controls search, does google control the internet?
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[...] Google, in all their awesomeness, have made a bid to provide San Francisco with free wireless internet access[gigaom.com]. Free, citywide, 300kbps… Google is like Santa Clause these days. [...]
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For comparison, Verizon Broadband is $79.99 a month with a 2 year contract which stipulates:
Unlimited NationalAccess/BroadbandAccess services cannot be used (1) for uploading, downloading or streaming of movies, music or games, (2) with server devices or with host computer applications, including, but not limited to, Web camera posts or broadcasts, automatic data feeds, Voice over IP (VoIP), automated machine-to-machine connections, or peer-to-peer (P2P) file sharing, or (3) as a substitute or backup for private lines or dedicated data connections.
So with Verizon you can’t even use Skype.
On a more interesting note, a kid with a cheap computer with free access to Wikipedia probably has more opportunities to learn than a kid at a posh private school in 1990.
This is the kind of stuff that happens in truly free markets, it’s a beautiful thing.
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[...] Two announcements caught my attention this week: the update on Nicholas Negroponte’s $100 laptop project and Google’s bid to build a free WiFi network for the San Francisco area (something Om Malik has been expecting for quite a while now). [...]
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Google Wifi in San Francisco
It seems that Google has officially submitted a bid to the city of San Francisco to build a city-wide…
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[...] It nevers stops with everyone’s favorite search engine to blog about. Today, Om Malik is reporting that Google will be making headlines again with their bid to build a free citywide WiFi network in San Francisco. According to documents filed, the company will provide free access at 300 kilobits per second. If approved, Google plans to start building within the next couple of weeks. Always on internet connection and free as well? Suddenly the future citywide WiFi in Philadelphia doesn’t look so attractive. It will be very interesting to see how this project fares. Providing free WiFi is a huge undertaking that many city governments don’t even want to contemplate venturing into. [...]
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[...] Yesterday evening, Om Malik broke the news that Google is planning on rolling out free wi-fi service in San Francisco. The network will have speeds up to 300 kbps with a free VPN client. Om had previously written about this as a possiblity in an article for Business 2.0 and now it has been confirmed. [...]
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[...] Are you kidding me? Can you imagine? Free wifi at all points in a city at a decent speed. Awesome. Full article click at Om Malik’s broadband blog. [...]
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It looks good & nice in theory but as we all know that there is no free lunch, i am not sure whether Google can sustain this free acces!
I hope that Google has a business plan based on this free thing….
8:49 PM PT
Google offers to unwire SF for free
Glenn Fleishman says, I believe Om Malik had the story first that Google confirmed it was one of the bidders for SF’s proposed municipal Wi-Fi network and will offer Wi-Fi for free to residents. The network’s goal is to bring the possibility of Inter…
10:23 PM PT
Nice! Wish Google spent the money that they raised trying to make some money so that they investors get a return. None of their new business launches have added a penny to their bottom line, and now infrastructure expenses where they have little industry experience and expertise on board..esp. telco and wireless.
Of course, they have a plan, but I think the number of shares the insiders are selling makes me think that they have little confidence in their own plans, seems like over a billion dollars in shares sold!!!
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/it?s=GOOG
11:34 PM PT
Google’s Wants to Do Free Wi-Fi in San Francisco
Elinor Mills at News.com offers a solid roundup of some of the comment about Google’s bid to provide free wi-fi access throughout San Francisco. But first, some background (in case you need it). The Background According to Om Malik’s post from Friday…
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Google Proposes Free Muni-Wireless Network for San Francisco
http://gigaom.com/2005/09/30/google-confirms-san-francisco-wifi-plans/trackback/
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[...] Full story [...]
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Google offering free WiFi in San Francisco
There have been signs that Google’s been planning to offer wireless service for some time. On Saturday, the search giant showed its hand: Google Inc. wants to connect all of San Francisco to the Internet with a free wireless service,…
10:14 AM PT
Google - San Francisco WiFi
So the rumors are true. Google will build a free wifi network in San Francisco. Is this a good move? It really depends on what Google will do with it. Does it fit with Google’s core areas of competency? Not…
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KirkH:
do you have a link to these terms of service? that’s incredible!
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[...] The service is likely to be a wireless T-1 scale offering, something that is already available from TowerStream and NextWeb in both those markets. Google’s plans for Free WiFi, Covad, Tower Stream, Sprint and Verizon EVDO, and a choppy Cingular UMTS - - SF Bay Area has a lot of broadband wireless options. Now if somehow the fixed wireless services could be delivered to consumers and not businesses at an affordable price, things could get interesting. It also makes me wonder if there are issues with delivering the fixed wireless service to a large number of consumers. [...]
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Web 2.0 Weekly Wrap-up, 26 Sep - 2 Oct 2005
This week: Defining Web 2.0, Web-based office, Yahoo media/tv, Google Wifi, Techie Post of the
Week: Tim O’Reilly’s What is Web 2.0.
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[...] - Monitorare Google sta diventando un lavoraccio. Mentre si apprestano a lanciare il loro Web Calendar (mercoledì prossimo?), i genietti di Mountain View offriranno, gratis, un network wifi di 300 Kb/s alla città di San Francisco. Come se non bastasse, negli Stati Uniti è ora possibile mandare SMS, sempre free, attraverso un’estensione per Firefox. State sicuri che quest’ultimo servizio non arriverà mai nel nostro libero mercato. [...]
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As a better and free alternative to Witopia or Google Secure Access, I recommend “iPig” from iOpus software (http://www.iopus.com/ipig)
It uses 256-bit AES encryption, which is considered to be unbreakable!
5:20 AM PT
Om, nice work. You’ve been out ahead of the curve on this one for a while now even if Google is still protesting a nationwide network. There’s some interesting backlash; seems that a reasonable number of the more tech-inclined aren’t that comfortable with Google-as-Network-Provider…essentially fearing that by providing transport as well as all their other services they’ll pretty much have you pinned down like a bug in a box. Heck, if you’re using G-Net to browse some pr0n in your room at the Metro Hotel (that Google knows you booked with your Amex and checked in at 3:45 when at 3:30 you sms’d Google (46645) for the st. address and then again for a taxi service from the airport) they could either message you offering to deliver some “accessories” or, if you’ve been an idiot and are browsing something of questionable legality they could just as easily “dispatch” the authorities and catch you in the act.
Of course that is a dramatization but the technology exists and Google wants to deploy it. Some folks are suggesting that it’s over-reactionary to even remark on this issue but I think there ought to be a line. I mean, if personal information that is so readily available wasn’t overly valuable I don’t think Eric Schmidt (CEO of Google) would have been quite so upset with C-Net for “Googling” him.
I wonder, would you use Google Net for your personal browsing in SF? Do you use GMail? Would you for something sensitive?
I think you’re opinion would be tremendously valuable seeing as how you’veobviously given this more thought than just about anyone.
Thanks,
Oliver Starr “stitch”
http://www.mobile-weblog.com
7:23 AM PT
[...] More from Malik: “San Francisco will be a true test bed for location based services and applications,” says Chris Sacca, principal of new business development at Google. While the initial use of location-based services might be limited to more-focused and targeted advertising, the potential of location-based services is immense, officials said. Sacca pointed out that the network bid was in line with Google’s thinking on delivering answers anytime anywhere to anyone, and looking beyond a desktop PC.” [...]
7:23 AM PT
Municipal Wireless Broadband – Boon or Boondoggle?
Google has offered to provide free, relatively slow WiFi access to most of San Francisco (more from MuniWireless.com here). Philadelphia is taking bids for free or cheap WiFi access citywide (more from Om Malik here). Ersatz wireless broadband networks…
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[...] For more on this, read what Glenn Fleishman and Om Malik have to say about Google’s plans. [...]
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San Francisco WiFi Internet
Google is making a bid to build a San Francisco-wide free wifi network, according to company officials. The company filed documents in response to San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsoms request for information for the city wide network. According to Googl…
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Do no paranoia - Google goes Microsoft?
After experimenting on a small scale with offering WLAN-access, Google has now engaged in the beauty contest on which company may get the chance to provide San Francisco with citywide wireless internet access, as reported by SF Gate and Business
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[...] In the news this week San Francisco will build out a high speed city wide wi-fi network, whether donated for free by google, or built by someone else. You’ll have bits anywhere, maybe 1 mb symmetric. [...]
3:56 AM PT
Yawn…. Google and Sun are Cooperating.
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من پسورد سایت گوگل میخواهم
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[...] Är det bara jag som levat under en sten eller är jag den första att upptäcka Google Reader? Nu har då Google gjort för RSS vad GMail gjorde för mail. Whoa. Världserövringen bara närmar sej (snart kommer Google Office, Google wlan access och Google Internet) Comments » [...]
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[...] Maybe we should get Google to WiFi enable all of Ireland like they did in San Francisco. Followed up with maps of Ireland reading “Ireland Sponsored by Google.?. [...]
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[...] Earlier this year, when announcing their bid for the San Francisco wireless network, Google executives indicated that they plan to work closely with the incumbents including cable operators and the phone companies. Given the antagonistic stance taken by some Bell executives, it is safer that Google might be looking to work closely with MSOs on its next generation efforts such as video and voice over the Internet. Proof of this direction might be found in this job posting. The company is currently seeking software engineers who have ability to work cable systems. Amongst the requirements include experience in DOCSIS and DVB. [...]
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The “First Mile”
The following line in Charlene Li’s post on the Yahoo! acquisition of del.icio.us stood out for me. Charlene: “The acquisition by Yahoo! is significant for much the same reason why it bought other social computing darlings, Flickr and Konfabulator –
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“FREE NATION-WIDE WIRELESS INTERNET by GOOGLE”
An idea that hopefully will be widespread in the near future. Google makes their money by people using their search engine. Making connectivity free is a no-brainer. Probably one of the more expensive no-brainers though :)
J
8:48 PM PT
“FREE NATION-WIDE WIRELESS INTERNET by GOOGLE”?
You guys think so small.
9:23 PM PT
[...] Under this RFP, the network would be financed privately, similar to the way Philadelphia is working with Earthlink, or what Google is doing in San Francisco. The city would provide the mounting structures for WiFi radios, such as light poles. [...]
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[...] Under this RFP, the network would be financed privately, similar to the way Philadelphia is working with Earthlink, or what Google is doing in San Francisco. The city would provide the mounting structures for WiFi radios, such as light poles. [...]
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MoOm to all of you
I was recently at a meeting where they were discussing the value of WiFi coverage over the coastal area. The boats on the sea will need wifi connectivity so they know what is happening on the land. Salivating over the revenue through targeted advertising to fishermen and fishing fans. I heard this would be a mesh network of WiFi access points on GoogBoats.
Go Google!
7:08 PM PT
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9:31 PM PT
will wifi also be counted in places as san bruno near sf…like 10-15miles away?
4:22 PM PT
Please advise me how to contact Google executives, specifically those executives who were former Microsoft employees.
Thanks
Thomas Smith
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Kim…
Looks like your page was heavily hit by spam…
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I want my WIFI google!!
SF resident
degicank.com
4:15 AM PT
can u rite me a response to this article for digital media…? i h8 the subject and its really hard!!!
11:48 AM PT
It would be great if Google or some other able company would provide service for us soldiers over here in Iraq and Afghanistan. We are getting ripped off by paying $35/month for a 64Kbs capped connection that performs at about <5Kbs. I wouldn’t mind paying the money, its just that the service is not worth it…at all! Please, somebody, somewhere spark some interest for us. We’re hurting over here in the connectivity department. Thanks
2:47 PM PT
“HAHAHA!!! San Francisco!?!?!? FREE WIFI?!?!? GIVE ME A *&#%)#^$% BREAK!!!! Comcast has got SF locked down, and especially were I live, it’s broadband or nothing. No DSL service here. Why would Comcast release it’s monopoly on the city’s Broadband service, when there’s millions, possibly even billions of dollars to be made. “Wi-Fi” = When Idiots Fantasize Intoxicated!!! . . . and stop smokin’ too! Anyone who thinks anything comes for free must’ve been dropped on their heads as children.”
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9:32 PM PT
How wide is the range of the connection? Los Angeles’ mayor announced plans for city-wide wifi as well. Looks like we’re finally taking another step in the information age.
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Join our online community to share your opinion on the free WiFi initiative in San Francisco.
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[...] years to come. This is especially true if, as some analysts predict, Google is planning to take its omnipresent WiFi experiment in San Francisco to other cities in the coming [...]
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[...] article is here: “Google Confirms Free San Francisco WiFi [...]
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[...] could potentially go away. And with Wifi blanketing the world (fueled by collaborative hotspots and civic initiatives) that’s a lot of lost revenue. As in, “gee, no phone calls from San Francisco this [...]
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[...] could potentially go away. And with Wifi blanketing the world (fueled by collaborative hotspots and civic initiatives) that’s a lot of lost revenue. As in, “gee, no phone calls from San Francisco this [...]
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[...] is rumored to plan and build a global fiber network and they already experimenting with free internet business model , could this alliance become the start-up of the Super Worldwide Carrier , Google?.We [...]
3:56 AM PT
Thats great for San Francisco. I h ope all cities have free Wifi. I mean the competition in high speed internet is in full force so yeah! http://ispsurvey.com
4:48 PM PT
Join the facebook group: To sustain the google initiative at diverse level of commitment you can join and invite your friends to the group:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=9384910015
The idea is to create an huge group can be substitute and enanche wall streets partners
1:43 PM PT
Pretty soon I bet all major cities will have free Wifi. I only hope we don’t have to wait very long before it happens. High speed internet can be so competitive.
5:46 PM PT
So how is this working out anyway?…I know this has stirred alot of contorversey in my neck of the woods here in Tucson AZ where they just did away with plans to create a municiple wide WiFi network.
http://www.TucsonBusinessBroadband.com
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[...] Quando sentii parlare per la prima volta di questo progetto mi trovavo proprio nella capitale irlandese e da allora sono passati quasi due anni. L’idea sembrava rivoluzionaria, almeno rispetto alla situazione italiana, ossia coprire l’intera area urbana di Dublino con una sorta di "ombrello" Wi-Fi per fornire connettività gratuita a tutti i cittadini. Era un’idea forse avanti coi tempi anche se in linea con le sperimentazioni già avviate negli Stati Uniti da alcuni colossi dell’informatica, come Google per la città di San Francisco (vedi qui). [...]
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[...] this out: Google is now bidding to provide free wi-fi access to all citizens of San Francisco. /. article [...]
6:52 AM PT
That’s a pretty amazing project in my mind. This is really an amazing thing to do for a city – and should be the way of the future. First, we had to make sure cities had running water. Then, electricity. Now, wireless. It’s the only way to go – wireless will have to become a stable and expected feature of developed cities. Truly, now, you would be able to work anywhere and everywhere – improving the quality of life ten fold.
9:28 PM PT
This post has been made last 2005. So how was the bid made by Google? Did they make it? I haven’t read any wifi-related article for San Francisco lately. I hope you can give us an update on this.
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