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	<title>Comments on: SBC: Free Voice Is Bunkum</title>
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		<title>By: chris holland</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 17:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m also thinking it might be worth our while to distinguish between *free* and *un-metered* voice.

Un-metered voice is already a reality today with the likes of vonage, lingo.com, but we&#039;re still paying for the service separately, because we&#039;re still dependent on the almighty &quot;telephone number&quot;.

There&#039;ll always be a cost associated with providing voice services, but that cost, overtime, will likely get closer to the nominal monthly fee you&#039;re paying for broadband connectivity.

Today, for $20/month, lingo.com lets me call anywhere in the U.S., Canada, Puerto Rico, and Western Europe, for as long as I want.

Monthly broadband prices have gone down in the U.S. from about $50/month to $40/month (i&#039;m talking about real broadband, not the 384Kbps *crap SBC/Yahoo* baits you in with). It&#039;s not unthinkable to see ISPs bundle unlimited voice service with broadband connectivity for a total of say, $60/month, and that&#039;s giving you seamless interoperability with the PSTN.

Now, consider ISPs who allow, with your opting-in, your e-mail address to also be your &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theappleblog.com/2005/06/03/reintroducing-sip-free-calling-for-all/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SIP&lt;/a&gt; address for other sip-enabled users to just &quot;call you up&quot;, you&#039;re essentially removing the PSTN out of the equation. What&#039;s *that* going to do to the price of Voice?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also thinking it might be worth our while to distinguish between *free* and *un-metered* voice.</p>
<p>Un-metered voice is already a reality today with the likes of vonage, lingo.com, but we&#8217;re still paying for the service separately, because we&#8217;re still dependent on the almighty &#8220;telephone number&#8221;.</p>
<p>There&#8217;ll always be a cost associated with providing voice services, but that cost, overtime, will likely get closer to the nominal monthly fee you&#8217;re paying for broadband connectivity.</p>
<p>Today, for $20/month, lingo.com lets me call anywhere in the U.S., Canada, Puerto Rico, and Western Europe, for as long as I want.</p>
<p>Monthly broadband prices have gone down in the U.S. from about $50/month to $40/month (i&#8217;m talking about real broadband, not the 384Kbps *crap SBC/Yahoo* baits you in with). It&#8217;s not unthinkable to see ISPs bundle unlimited voice service with broadband connectivity for a total of say, $60/month, and that&#8217;s giving you seamless interoperability with the PSTN.</p>
<p>Now, consider ISPs who allow, with your opting-in, your e-mail address to also be your <a href="http://www.theappleblog.com/2005/06/03/reintroducing-sip-free-calling-for-all/" rel="nofollow">SIP</a> address for other sip-enabled users to just &#8220;call you up&#8221;, you&#8217;re essentially removing the PSTN out of the equation. What&#8217;s *that* going to do to the price of Voice?</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Sierra</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/09/22/sbc-free-voice-is-bunkum/#comment-108177</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2005 01:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even though SBC is probably the smartest RBOC, Murdoch is going to win this battle.

Here&#039;s the bottom line, other players, google included, can afford to offer Voice as a loss leader to their other business&#039;. Just ask Meg at eBay.

Once this trend gains traction, the phone company&#039;s are totally screwed because they are danagerously over-capitalized, and they&#039;ve got nothing else to sell.

When Google emerges from next year&#039;s auctions with some nice chunks of spectrum, watch out.

I predict a bigtime BK filing by eoy 2008.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though SBC is probably the smartest RBOC, Murdoch is going to win this battle.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the bottom line, other players, google included, can afford to offer Voice as a loss leader to their other business&#8217;. Just ask Meg at eBay.</p>
<p>Once this trend gains traction, the phone company&#8217;s are totally screwed because they are danagerously over-capitalized, and they&#8217;ve got nothing else to sell.</p>
<p>When Google emerges from next year&#8217;s auctions with some nice chunks of spectrum, watch out.</p>
<p>I predict a bigtime BK filing by eoy 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Kopelman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/09/22/sbc-free-voice-is-bunkum/#comment-108176</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jesse Kopelman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2005 19:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stephenson is old fashioned. To him a network is something designed as the transport layer for a specific service. His network was built for voice services and thus the cost of the network itself is the cost of providing voice. In the modern packet-oriented world, the network is designed to transport generic packets not a specific service. Web browsing, e-mail, video, voice P2P file transfer, these things all happen on the same network. Why insist that voice is somehow different from e-mail in terms of the connection you&#039;ve provided to the user? Charge for the pipe you&#039;ve provided, not what the user does with it. If you also want to provide the service, you can charge for that too, but keep in mind that some services just don&#039;t command a premium. At this point, you just can&#039;t charge very much for voice. Stephenson&#039;s only hope is that the puplic will go along with him blocking other service providers from accessing his users -- in effect replacing internet access with a walled garden. Thus far, people haven&#039;t been too receptive to such tactics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephenson is old fashioned. To him a network is something designed as the transport layer for a specific service. His network was built for voice services and thus the cost of the network itself is the cost of providing voice. In the modern packet-oriented world, the network is designed to transport generic packets not a specific service. Web browsing, e-mail, video, voice P2P file transfer, these things all happen on the same network. Why insist that voice is somehow different from e-mail in terms of the connection you&#8217;ve provided to the user? Charge for the pipe you&#8217;ve provided, not what the user does with it. If you also want to provide the service, you can charge for that too, but keep in mind that some services just don&#8217;t command a premium. At this point, you just can&#8217;t charge very much for voice. Stephenson&#8217;s only hope is that the puplic will go along with him blocking other service providers from accessing his users &#8212; in effect replacing internet access with a walled garden. Thus far, people haven&#8217;t been too receptive to such tactics.</p>
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