Comments on: Does Apple pass the Community test? http://gigaom.com/2005/09/09/does-apple-pass-the-community-test/ The Business of Technology Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:04:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: NUGLOPS » Widgets to Microsoft Gadgets http://gigaom.com/2005/09/09/does-apple-pass-the-community-test/#comment-24177 NUGLOPS » Widgets to Microsoft Gadgets Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:10:46 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/09/09/does-apple-pass-the-community-test/#comment-24177 [...] Well since Yahoo has Konfabulator, Google has its Sidebar and Apple has its Dashboard Widgets, Microsoft needed to come-up with something. A brand new category imaginatively called — drum roll please - Microsoft Gadgets. I like to call it, “A million new ways to get hacked.” [...] [...] Well since Yahoo has Konfabulator, Google has its Sidebar and Apple has its Dashboard Widgets, Microsoft needed to come-up with something. A brand new category imaginatively called — drum roll please - Microsoft Gadgets. I like to call it, “A million new ways to get hacked.” [...]

]]> By: Jake http://gigaom.com/2005/09/09/does-apple-pass-the-community-test/#comment-24175 Jake Fri, 09 Sep 2005 19:31:41 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/09/09/does-apple-pass-the-community-test/#comment-24175 This story will grow to replace the "Apple copied Xerox" meme. Konfab was not great. Dashboard is better. Rose was given a years notice. Chose to bitch publicly and run to Windows - an environment that has been and on again off again for applets. I hope that Yahoo satisfied him. Apple's move was good for Apple's consumers. That is the hand that feeds them. Yes, ISVs are required to support the platform. Many do, quite successfully without too many bites. This story will grow to replace the “Apple copied Xerox” meme.

Konfab was not great. Dashboard is better. Rose was given a years notice. Chose to bitch publicly and run to Windows - an environment that has been and on again off again for applets. I hope that Yahoo satisfied him.

Apple’s move was good for Apple’s consumers. That is the hand that feeds them. Yes, ISVs are required to support the platform. Many do, quite successfully without too many bites.

]]> By: Peter http://gigaom.com/2005/09/09/does-apple-pass-the-community-test/#comment-24173 Peter Fri, 09 Sep 2005 17:15:49 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/09/09/does-apple-pass-the-community-test/#comment-24173 OS companies should and will do this. Good ISVs learn to move ahead of them. Asking an OS to stand still is silly. Most of what we take for granted in operating systems was made by ISVs at an earlier time. OS companies should and will do this. Good ISVs learn to move ahead of them. Asking an OS to stand still is silly. Most of what we take for granted in operating systems was made by ISVs at an earlier time.

]]> By: Richard Hamilton http://gigaom.com/2005/09/09/does-apple-pass-the-community-test/#comment-24171 Richard Hamilton Fri, 09 Sep 2005 17:11:11 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/09/09/does-apple-pass-the-community-test/#comment-24171 I won't take on the issue PWB raises, maybe Konfab missed out on being open, but from a design and branding front there was a lot of "sharing" by Apple that I'm sure my kindergarten teacher wouldn't have approved. I won’t take on the issue PWB raises, maybe Konfab missed out on being open, but from a design and branding front there was a lot of “sharing” by Apple that I’m sure my kindergarten teacher wouldn’t have approved.

]]> By: Peter http://gigaom.com/2005/09/09/does-apple-pass-the-community-test/#comment-24167 Peter Fri, 09 Sep 2005 17:04:58 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/09/09/does-apple-pass-the-community-test/#comment-24167 Anybody in the "Operating System Utilities" business risks being stomped upon by the maker of the Operating System. I remember when some of the top selling software for Windows 3.1 was stuff to make it work better. Should Microsoft not have released Windows 95 and killed off that market? Heck, Mac OS X does live disk defragmentation, thus hurting companies like Symantec. Should Apple not do these things? If you're in the "operating system utilities" market, you have to be aware that one of your competitors is the company that makes the operating system. You need to either be able to compete with those kinds of resources or have an exit strategy for if/when you get trumped. Heck, the company I work for does color management software. Apple is nibbling away at our edges. I keep an eye on it so I can adjust my software plans accordingly. In some ways, it's kind of nice. I don't have to write a color calculator because Apple wrote one for me, so I can spend time doing interesting things. Anybody in the “Operating System Utilities” business risks being stomped upon by the maker of the Operating System. I remember when some of the top selling software for Windows 3.1 was stuff to make it work better. Should Microsoft not have released Windows 95 and killed off that market?

Heck, Mac OS X does live disk defragmentation, thus hurting companies like Symantec. Should Apple not do these things?

If you’re in the “operating system utilities” market, you have to be aware that one of your competitors is the company that makes the operating system. You need to either be able to compete with those kinds of resources or have an exit strategy for if/when you get trumped.

Heck, the company I work for does color management software. Apple is nibbling away at our edges. I keep an eye on it so I can adjust my software plans accordingly. In some ways, it’s kind of nice. I don’t have to write a color calculator because Apple wrote one for me, so I can spend time doing interesting things.

]]> By: Peter http://gigaom.com/2005/09/09/does-apple-pass-the-community-test/#comment-24169 Peter Fri, 09 Sep 2005 17:04:58 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/09/09/does-apple-pass-the-community-test/#comment-24169 Anybody in the "Operating System Utilities" business risks being stomped upon by the maker of the Operating System. I remember when some of the top selling software for Windows 3.1 was stuff to make it work better. Should Microsoft not have released Windows 95 and killed off that market? Heck, Mac OS X does live disk defragmentation, thus hurting companies like Symantec. Should Apple not do these things? If you're in the "operating system utilities" market, you have to be aware that one of your competitors is the company that makes the operating system. You need to either be able to compete with those kinds of resources or have an exit strategy for if/when you get trumped. Heck, the company I work for does color management software. Apple is nibbling away at our edges. I keep an eye on it so I can adjust my software plans accordingly. In some ways, it's kind of nice. I don't have to write a color calculator because Apple wrote one for me, so I can spend time doing interesting things. Anybody in the “Operating System Utilities” business risks being stomped upon by the maker of the Operating System. I remember when some of the top selling software for Windows 3.1 was stuff to make it work better. Should Microsoft not have released Windows 95 and killed off that market?

Heck, Mac OS X does live disk defragmentation, thus hurting companies like Symantec. Should Apple not do these things?

If you’re in the “operating system utilities” market, you have to be aware that one of your competitors is the company that makes the operating system. You need to either be able to compete with those kinds of resources or have an exit strategy for if/when you get trumped.

Heck, the company I work for does color management software. Apple is nibbling away at our edges. I keep an eye on it so I can adjust my software plans accordingly. In some ways, it’s kind of nice. I don’t have to write a color calculator because Apple wrote one for me, so I can spend time doing interesting things.

]]> By: PXLated http://gigaom.com/2005/09/09/does-apple-pass-the-community-test/#comment-24165 PXLated Fri, 09 Sep 2005 16:17:31 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/09/09/does-apple-pass-the-community-test/#comment-24165 I have to agree with PWB, Konfafulator was very problematic. Dashboard widgets are in no way similar to Konfab, Dashboard uses standard html/css/javascript and is totally open to any web developer. Konfab was/is it's own little world. Widget have been around forever is some form or fashion, Apple did not bitch-slap Rose. I have to agree with PWB, Konfafulator was very problematic. Dashboard widgets are in no way similar to Konfab, Dashboard uses standard html/css/javascript and is totally open to any web developer. Konfab was/is it’s own little world.
Widget have been around forever is some form or fashion, Apple did not bitch-slap Rose.

]]> By: pwb http://gigaom.com/2005/09/09/does-apple-pass-the-community-test/#comment-24163 pwb Fri, 09 Sep 2005 16:03:15 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/09/09/does-apple-pass-the-community-test/#comment-24163 Konfabulator was junk. What it should have been was a simple little, *free* JavaScript/DHTML runtime with some libraries to make widget creation easier. Konfabulator was junk. What it should have been was a simple little, *free* JavaScript/DHTML runtime with some libraries to make widget creation easier.

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