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		<title>By: simon</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/08/29/scoble-is-wrong-about-thin-clients/#comment-22522</link>
		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 13:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Reminds me of the PC killing the Mainframe.  Didn&#039;t happen.  There will be a place for thin clients and a place for thick clients.  Just as there is a place for mainframes.  There will be a rationalisation of usage with thin clients taking over for uses they are really suited for and thick clients finding their place.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Complicating the issue is the way OSes will be changing to the point that trying to define a thick vs thin client will be hard.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of the PC killing the Mainframe.  Didn&#8217;t happen.  There will be a place for thin clients and a place for thick clients.  Just as there is a place for mainframes.  There will be a rationalisation of usage with thin clients taking over for uses they are really suited for and thick clients finding their place.</p>

<p>Complicating the issue is the way OSes will be changing to the point that trying to define a thick vs thin client will be hard.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: plaxoed! &#187; Thick or thin? [Mark Jen&#8217;s life @ Plaxo]</title>
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		<dc:creator>plaxoed! &#187; Thick or thin? [Mark Jen&#8217;s life @ Plaxo]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 00:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] no Internet connectivity, giving me plenty of time to think and write about the topic     As Om notes, many applications are moving to thin clients, more devices are becomin [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Bill Dollars</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/08/29/scoble-is-wrong-about-thin-clients/#comment-22491</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Dollars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just saw details of the recent funding listed below ... display technology likely to morph into ultra-cheap/high performance thin client. Agree it is not always the best architecture, but don&#039;t underestimate the cost savings in an enterprise environment. Desktop cost savings is not an issue: massive cost savings are to be had in simple administration and centralised control of enterprise apps and resources. It&#039;s all coming together.&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;7 July 2005, Cambridge, UK – Newnham Research has secured $8m Series B financing from two of the leading global venture capital firms: Atlas Venture and Benchmark.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The announcement comes as the company, who are developing powerful new ways of connecting displays to computers, prepare to launch their first products with a selected group of international partners.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saw details of the recent funding listed below &#8230; display technology likely to morph into ultra-cheap/high performance thin client. Agree it is not always the best architecture, but don&#8217;t underestimate the cost savings in an enterprise environment. Desktop cost savings is not an issue: massive cost savings are to be had in simple administration and centralised control of enterprise apps and resources. It&#8217;s all coming together.</p>

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<p>7 July 2005, Cambridge, UK – Newnham Research has secured $8m Series B financing from two of the leading global venture capital firms: Atlas Venture and Benchmark.</p>

<p>The announcement comes as the company, who are developing powerful new ways of connecting displays to computers, prepare to launch their first products with a selected group of international partners.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Eric Marcoullier</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/08/29/scoble-is-wrong-about-thin-clients/#comment-22472</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Marcoullier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 04:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ll trade my ability to edit spreadsheets on a plane for cheaper software and universal access to my data any time, and I think Fred Wilson would agree. Yesterday he complained that DRM wasn&#039;t scaling with his family&#039;s mobile lifestyle; if you squint and till your head to the side a bit it&#039;s hard to distinguish between DRM and Scoble&#039;s thick clients.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll trade my ability to edit spreadsheets on a plane for cheaper software and universal access to my data any time, and I think Fred Wilson would agree. Yesterday he complained that DRM wasn&#8217;t scaling with his family&#8217;s mobile lifestyle; if you squint and till your head to the side a bit it&#8217;s hard to distinguish between DRM and Scoble&#8217;s thick clients.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Patrick Smith</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/08/29/scoble-is-wrong-about-thin-clients/#comment-22438</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This just feels like classic Innovator&#039;s Dilemma stuff...  the antiquated technology moving upmarket and leaving the simple stuff to the inadequate new technology.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Of course MS - Scoble - anyone-with-a-vested-desktop-interest will focus on the outlier situations (at least outlier compared to mainstream needs) -- traveling &amp; designing, in this case.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But in the end, as Christensen modeled for us, the new, inferior tech will eat away at discarded lower-end markets until it can satisfy enough needs of enough customers to cause a massive customer shift away from the incumbent to the new technology.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just feels like classic Innovator&#8217;s Dilemma stuff&#8230;  the antiquated technology moving upmarket and leaving the simple stuff to the inadequate new technology.</p>

<p>Of course MS &#8211; Scoble &#8211; anyone-with-a-vested-desktop-interest will focus on the outlier situations (at least outlier compared to mainstream needs) &#8212; traveling &amp; designing, in this case.</p>

<p>But in the end, as Christensen modeled for us, the new, inferior tech will eat away at discarded lower-end markets until it can satisfy enough needs of enough customers to cause a massive customer shift away from the incumbent to the new technology.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mark Sigal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Sigal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s funny how these discussions get pulled into the all or none bucket.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Do I want to spend my entire day in a thin client? No, not as long as I am playing my ITunes, working with PowerPoint and checking my Outlook.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By the same token, the percentage of my day that is spent in a web browser continues to increase.  And through programming methodologies like Ajax and the emergence of rich messaging pub/sub models around RSS, the thin experience is getting a whole lot better.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Plus, let&#039;s not forget the fact that the trend on new applications developed is decidedly towards building a web variant first and then maybe extending the app to a richer fat client for power users.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The reasons are obvious.  It&#039;s quicker, cheaper and easier to launch and iterate on the developer side and its quicker, cheaper and easier for the consumer to try before buying.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not an all or none, but the gravitational pull is pretty clear.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny how these discussions get pulled into the all or none bucket.</p>

<p>Do I want to spend my entire day in a thin client? No, not as long as I am playing my ITunes, working with PowerPoint and checking my Outlook.</p>

<p>By the same token, the percentage of my day that is spent in a web browser continues to increase.  And through programming methodologies like Ajax and the emergence of rich messaging pub/sub models around RSS, the thin experience is getting a whole lot better.</p>

<p>Plus, let&#8217;s not forget the fact that the trend on new applications developed is decidedly towards building a web variant first and then maybe extending the app to a richer fat client for power users.</p>

<p>The reasons are obvious.  It&#8217;s quicker, cheaper and easier to launch and iterate on the developer side and its quicker, cheaper and easier for the consumer to try before buying.</p>

<p>Not an all or none, but the gravitational pull is pretty clear.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Genuine VC</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/08/29/scoble-is-wrong-about-thin-clients/#comment-22413</link>
		<dc:creator>Genuine VC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Browsing Office and Storage 2.0&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Coincidentally (or maybe not so) in the past week, I’ve been in a few conversations about more and more apps coming to a browser near you enabled by Ajax – namely an alternative to the Microsoft Office suite. Paolo Massa is working on AjaxOffice an...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Browsing Office and Storage 2.0</strong></p>

<p>Coincidentally (or maybe not so) in the past week, I’ve been in a few conversations about more and more apps coming to a browser near you enabled by Ajax – namely an alternative to the Microsoft Office suite. Paolo Massa is working on AjaxOffice an&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: John Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 06:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Seriously, though, does anyone really want to work in a web browser all of the time? I love the new AJAX style stuff, so don&#039;t get me wrong, but it&#039;s really so much nicer to work with a client-based native application.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Google seems to recognize this too with their rich-client entries. Also, there are times when you are disconnected from the network. What&#039;s the alternative there?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I know there&#039;s lots of poo-pooing of Windows OS, but the simple fact is that it runs on most people&#039;s machines and there lots of stuff coming down the road (in the short term), that will make deployment of rich-client apps easier via the net or web. I can see the flames coming now, so I&#039;m outtie here ;)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, though, does anyone really want to work in a web browser all of the time? I love the new AJAX style stuff, so don&#8217;t get me wrong, but it&#8217;s really so much nicer to work with a client-based native application.</p>

<p>Google seems to recognize this too with their rich-client entries. Also, there are times when you are disconnected from the network. What&#8217;s the alternative there?</p>

<p>I know there&#8217;s lots of poo-pooing of Windows OS, but the simple fact is that it runs on most people&#8217;s machines and there lots of stuff coming down the road (in the short term), that will make deployment of rich-client apps easier via the net or web. I can see the flames coming now, so I&#8217;m outtie here ;)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Atul Chitnis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atul Chitnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 04:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey, nothing wrong with Bell Bottoms, Disco Music and Happy Days! :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Everything wrong with PCs that don&#039;t really do anything more than they did 10 years ago.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If there has been any growth at all in terms of functionality, it has been on the web+browser front. And if that is the case...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, nothing wrong with Bell Bottoms, Disco Music and Happy Days! :)</p>

<p>Everything wrong with PCs that don&#8217;t really do anything more than they did 10 years ago.</p>

<p>If there has been any growth at all in terms of functionality, it has been on the web+browser front. And if that is the case&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jackson West</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/08/29/scoble-is-wrong-about-thin-clients/#comment-22406</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 01:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As somebody who likes his tools available in a standard browser, I say the thin client model sounds great.  I can manage my life on any machine, any time via a standard web browser.  Plus it extends the life of older machines (like the bubble iMac I&#039;m on right now) because it does away with the hefty hardware requirements of bloated applications like Microsoft Office.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As somebody who likes his tools available in a standard browser, I say the thin client model sounds great.  I can manage my life on any machine, any time via a standard web browser.  Plus it extends the life of older machines (like the bubble iMac I&#8217;m on right now) because it does away with the hefty hardware requirements of bloated applications like Microsoft Office.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 00:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;actually, for on this one, i am going to kind of beg to disagree.  the problem is we think of thin clients in PC terms. look at it another way ... the mobile phones - they are thin clients.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;think about the thin client in a post broadband era. if you look at the first generation of thin clients, they were bandwidth starved underpowered machines that pretended to be PCs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;the new generation thin clients are going to be seriously popular in emerging world, where pipes are fatter and wallets thinner.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually, for on this one, i am going to kind of beg to disagree.  the problem is we think of thin clients in PC terms. look at it another way &#8230; the mobile phones &#8211; they are thin clients.</p>

<p>think about the thin client in a post broadband era. if you look at the first generation of thin clients, they were bandwidth starved underpowered machines that pretended to be PCs.</p>

<p>the new generation thin clients are going to be seriously popular in emerging world, where pipes are fatter and wallets thinner.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: tima thinking outloud.</title>
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		<dc:creator>tima thinking outloud.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 00:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Thick Clients Are Coming Back Like Bell Bottoms, Disco Music and Happy Days!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Om Malik says &quot;Scoble is wrong about thin clients.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Thick Clients Are Coming Back Like Bell Bottoms, Disco Music and Happy Days!</strong></p>

<p>Om Malik says &#8220;Scoble is wrong about thin clients.&#8221;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 00:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Actually you are wrong.  I&#039;ve been hearing this thin client crap since I don&#039;t know...1997?  You&#039;ll eat your words on this one.  Trust me.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually you are wrong.  I&#8217;ve been hearing this thin client crap since I don&#8217;t know&#8230;1997?  You&#8217;ll eat your words on this one.  Trust me.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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