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Mini Review: Just had a nice chat with Jon Gales using the iChat client, and it worked perfectly. The quality of sound was great and had no feedback or anything of the sort using Powerbook’s built in Mic and speakers. Anyone have screen shots of the […]

Mini Review: Just had a nice chat with Jon Gales using the iChat client, and it worked perfectly. The quality of sound was great and had no feedback or anything of the sort using Powerbook’s built in Mic and speakers. Anyone have screen shots of the official GTalk application, which I believe is for Windows only. You can get it here.

Still, an hour or so later, I am wondering why I need another Voice-over-IM client, given that I don’t use the ones that I have right now as much. I think Yahoo+DialPad makes more sense. When AOL does AIM-Plus-Voice-to-the-Phone, I may use it more. Still, Google has dipped its toes in voice waters, and it will be good to see what future enhancements they come-up with. For now, Skype has nothing to worry about except its own lack of supersonic growth.

Danny Sullivan, the real Search Engine guru is not impressed and writes, “Heck, Google Talk doesn’t even feature a box to let you search for things, as rival products from AOL and Yahoo do.” My full analysis later!

gtalk A lot of people are talking via Jabber server that is sitting on talk.google.com. I have been IMed by multiple sources who are in the process of setting up their Jabber clients. I have reports on Gaim, Adium and iChat being able to communicate via Jabber/Google Talk. You can sign-in using your Google ID which is your gmail address and password. I am having a tough time getting it up and running because of firewall issues.

gtalk2 Hopefully, will figure it out soon enough. Think of this as an update to my earlier post this morning.
Here is a screenshot. Niall has a how-to here.

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  1. I just logged in to it with Gaim.

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  2. It is up and running, and you can login with your Gmail account.

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  3. It seemed everyone was kicked off and receiving 405: Not Allowed errors. I was able to connect again by changing the Server to gmail.com instead of talk.google.com.

    Essentially my setup in gaim is:

    Screen Name: ashlux
    Server: gmail.com
    TLS: checked
    Port: 5222
    Connect Server: talk.google.com

    *cheers*

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  4. Google Talk

    Since others are buzzing about the new Google instant messaging service ahead of tomorrow’s planned release (like Om Malik and Niall Kennedy (who has created a how to)) , I thought I would state that, yes it is running the…

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  5. Silly me, I put my website as gmail.com instead of ashlux.com lol

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  6. Google Talk

    Google’s new chat tool, Google Talk is rumoured to be announced tomorrow (or tonight AUS time), but it seems that the server is live now. I’ve connected with my gmail address, (see instructions for Trillian or Gaim here) and it works. I&…

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  7. Up and running here on Mac OSX with Adium.

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  8. [...] Google is using Jabber and it is up and running By: Colin D. Devroe Just to confirm the rumors, Google is in fact using Jabber and it is [...]

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  9. Om: Download Squad has a review of the beta client posted here:

    http://www.downloadsquad.com/2005/08/23/googe-talk-review/

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  10. Jay Chakrapani Tuesday, August 23, 2005

    talk.google.com is up. their client is sweet. 900K download

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  11. They are using Gips voice codecs and software.

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  12. Every time Eric Schmidt and the rest of the Google gang go the bathroom, are we supposed to jump for joy? There’s nothing new to Jabber (its been around for many years now). I say this is a non-event so its time to take nap … Zzzzzzz

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  13. I downloaded Google Talk – but noting in it excited me …Tell me why a average joe who is already happy with msn/yahoo messanger has to download this ?

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  14. Google Talk: Another step in Google’s march towards desktop domination

    Om Malik points out that Google’s Jabber based instant messenger is now available. Google is making a concerted effort to dominate the three most common activities that one does on the internet – email, IM and search. Since Google Talk…

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  15. Not that impressed with Google Talk. With all the players in the space, wouldn’t have made sense to build in features that were at least in parity with what is out there or introduce features that are deemed more revolutionary?

    The voice over IM is nice and the interoperability is great, but it’s not going to make me switch from the client I use now. My friends are already tapped out and just see invites to these additional late services as spam.

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  16. How do you “know” they are using GIPS – that screen shot is NOT in the download

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  17. That screen shot is in the downloaded product Gary. If you right click on the tray icon, you will see that screen.
    I have it here:
    http://www.emergintex.com/blog/?p=88

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  18. YACC (Yet Another Chat Client).

    1) Unless this has some compelling community-based feature beyond simple IM chat, why on earth is anyone going to use it? Apart from letting me use my GMail identity, what’s to be gained?

    2) Google is pretty naive if they think that Yahoo! et al will be interested in opening their networks for Google’s exploitation as a network-based equivalent of Trillian (which is what Jabber was originally intended to be) by federating IM identity. If YahOo! and MSN and AOL couldn’t agree to open their networks and federate to each other, why should they want to do the same to GoOgle, an even more threatening entity?

    3) This would be great in a world where Skype et al did not exist, but even then its value to Google’s core business is questionable.

    Disclaimer: Obviously this is just a beta, and not the endgame, but Google had better get a lot smarter about understanding the viral and community dynamics driving IM and VoIP and figuring out how they would monetize such a service in the long haul, otherwise this could be a very expensive expedition that gets them nowhere. Voice service are not the kind of thing you can “just throw out there”.

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  19. [...] with. For now, Skype has nothing to worry about except its own lack of supersonic growth. Om Malik’s Broadband Blog » Google’s Jabber is Alive, works with iChat AV

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  20. where is XTEN NETWORK in google talk?

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  21. If you run the download and sniff the packets, you can see that it’s using GIPS codecs.

    Why this versus Skype? Well Google Does No Evil.

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  22. Yep, Google Talk is up, I managed to get it last night and haven’t stopped using it since!

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  23. The fact that Google created an IM/Voice client and the fact that is based on Jabber are the main things to take from this launch.
    They probably went to market earlier than they would like, but then again, why not let the market decide what it wants?
    Read the blogs, the wishlist has already been provided and Google can bring its resources to bear on putting them in the product.
    Integration with Desktop 2 is bound to come and perhaps with some of the other products Google has in it’s stable.
    Skype has lost momentum by developing video when it was clear that someone else was doing it. Delaying the introduction of Skype video would not have had much impact, and they could have focused on improving the basic platform. It could be a costly mistake.

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  24. [...] ng up with Jones. Yahoo (via DialPad acquisition), Microsoft (via Teleo acquisition), AIM, Google Talk and Apple’s iChat are taking a cue from Skype and giving their users to have [...]

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  25. [...] cal search results.” Since the story first made the rounds, a few new developments. Google released Google Talk, its voice-enabled IM client based on Jabber platform. And earl [...]

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  26. [...] A few weeks back I introduced you folks to Meebo, a browser-based IM aggregation client that leveraged technologies collectively known as AJAX. Now meet Gtalkr, a Flash-based implementation of Google Talk. I have been playing around with it for a few days, and as a Mac user, I can finally enjoy the GTalk IM Service. It is fairly simple product to use. Go to this website, use your Gmail ID and log in. Nothing to download, nothing to install. But ease of use is not the only thing. In many ways it is like GTalk plus. (I wish it looked prettier, but it works nicely [...]

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  27. [...] AOL, by the way continues to be the king maker in the Internet space, despite its troubles. I think many, scratch that, almost all have focused on the advertising aspect of this deal. In my mind, this is a deal which has larger strategic implications. The first – the instant messaging. The two companies explicitly state that they are going to interoperate their IM networks. For Google’s GTalk, this is a big boost, something it needed desperately in order to increase traction when compared to Microsoft and Yahoo. The IM alliance between Google-AOL is a good way to combat Microsoft-Yahoo IM combo. Wait, there is more…. Google had announced major voice-related announcements to the Jabber platform via its Jingle project. With the release of Libjingle, the makers of these clients will be able to add the ability to make and receive calls between their clients and Google Talk. In fact, they’ll be able to support calls between their clients and ANY OTHER clients that support Libjingle . [...]

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  28. [...] AOL, by the way continues to be the king maker in the Internet space, despite its troubles. I think many, scratch that, almost all have focused on the advertising aspect of this deal. In my mind, this is a deal which has larger strategic implications. The first – the instant messaging. The two companies explicitly state that they are going to interoperate their IM networks. For Google’s GTalk, this is a big boost, something it needed desperately in order to increase traction when compared to Microsoft and Yahoo. The IM alliance between Google-AOL is a good way to combat Microsoft-Yahoo IM combo. Wait, there is more…. Google had announced major voice-related announcements to the Jabber platform via its Jingle project. With the release of Libjingle, the makers of these clients will be able to add the ability to make and receive calls between their clients and Google Talk. In fact, they’ll be able to support calls between their clients and ANY OTHER clients that support Libjingle . [...]

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  29. It’s unfortunate to hear Google Talk compared to other platforms, when there simply is no comparison. Google Talk uses _standards_ instead of proprietary procols, like the others. It uses Jabber for test, and Jingle for voice. With many IM clients already supporting Jabber, and a few in the process of adding Jingle support, this means you can have _choice_ of which client you want to use.

    Further, Google is in the process of getting their servers to be compatible with other XMPP servers, so that john_doe@talk.google.com can chat with jane_jones@jabber.org

    Google Talk has progress to be made, but it is fundmantally more robust than competing products. Jingle will quite likely beat out SIP (session initiation protocol) as the standard for VoIP, as it is easier to implement, and is better with firewalls.

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  30. [...] Google has plans to integrate GTalk chat/IM service with its popular GMail email service. On the urging of some readers including Venkatesh and Gtalkr’s Dudley Carr, I checked my GMail, and discovered a “chat” entry in the left hand menu. When I clicked, this message came up: Get Google Talk so you can chat and make free voice calls with friends. Your Google Talk chat history can be automatically saved right here in your Gmail account. Also coming soon: chat in Gmail! Looks like you can soon chat from within the browser, ala Meebo. Maybe this will get some life into the Gtalk platform, which like most (if not all) Google efforts has been slow out of the gates. [...]

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  31. Hi there, I just started using iChat… manage to get the jabber work for google talk but how can I make th video chat work so that my frens could see me?

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