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		<title>By: Daniel Neamu Blog &#187; Google vs. Yahoo - the battle moves on</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Neamu Blog &#187; Google vs. Yahoo - the battle moves on]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 11:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] buzz shaking around the blogsphere is that Skype is looking for buyers, and with this in mind, approached Yahoo! but they balked at the asking price. Price supposedly asked: $1 billion. Hmmm!! Another one to [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] buzz shaking around the blogsphere is that Skype is looking for buyers, and with this in mind, approached Yahoo! but they balked at the asking price. Price supposedly asked: $1 billion. Hmmm!! Another one to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sacred Cow Dung</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;The Start of Internet Tsunami 2.0 Averted?  eBay Shareholders Get the Final Word: &quot;Skype Who?&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;

[&#8220;Uncle!&#160; Uncle!&#160; I give Up&#8221; &#8212; I really thought I could make it as the&#160;last hold-out in the VC Blogosphere NOT to comment on&#160;the Skype-eBay (or is it eBay-Skype?) Deal &#8212; Wrong again &#8212; cgm] What the Skyp...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Start of Internet Tsunami 2.0 Averted?  eBay Shareholders Get the Final Word: &#8220;Skype Who?&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>[&ldquo;Uncle!&nbsp; Uncle!&nbsp; I give Up&rdquo; &mdash; I really thought I could make it as the&nbsp;last hold-out in the VC Blogosphere NOT to comment on&nbsp;the Skype-eBay (or is it eBay-Skype?) Deal &mdash; Wrong again &mdash; cgm] What the Skyp&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik&#8217;s Broadband Blog &#187; Sk(h)ype</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Om Malik&#8217;s Broadband Blog &#187; Sk(h)ype]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 14:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] d old man of media is being polite - why be blunt, when others can read between the lines. The fact is that they have hired an investment banker, and are entertaining calls, t [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/08/09/maybe-skype-is-shopping-itself/#comment-106287</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m usually a passive observer in this but come on...

&quot;It&#039;s best to do one thing really, really well.

Google does search. Google does not do horoscopes, financial advice or chat.&quot;
- from &quot;Ten Things Google has Found to be True&quot; (http://www.google.com/intl/en/corporate/tenthings.html)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m usually a passive observer in this but come on&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s best to do one thing really, really well.</p>
<p>Google does search. Google does not do horoscopes, financial advice or chat.&#8221;<br />
- from &#8220;Ten Things Google has Found to be True&#8221; (<a href="http://www.google.com/intl/en/corporate/tenthings.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/intl/en/corporate/tenthings.html</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Epiphany</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/08/09/maybe-skype-is-shopping-itself/#comment-106286</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Epiphany]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Know a guy at Apple who says there were contacted by the fine folks at Skype. Not sure, but he thought they passed and giggled at the price tag. &quot;This is 2005, not 1995...&quot;

Rumor is they are in town (sValley) and talking to anyone with a check book.

Sad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Know a guy at Apple who says there were contacted by the fine folks at Skype. Not sure, but he thought they passed and giggled at the price tag. &#8220;This is 2005, not 1995&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Rumor is they are in town (sValley) and talking to anyone with a check book.</p>
<p>Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/08/09/maybe-skype-is-shopping-itself/#comment-106285</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 16:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am the monkey who stated that Google&#039;s business is advertising. Forgive me for quoting sentence one of the &quot;How we generate revenue&quot; section of the management discussion in Google&#039;s most recent Form 10-Q:

&quot;We derive most of our revenues from fees we receive from our advertisers.&quot;

You may live in an ideal world where broadband access appears for free from the heavens and corporations exist for the sole purpose of creating pleasing things. Congratulations.

Free voice is very compelling. Skype is a wonderful product. But the shareholders of Skype expect a (perhaps monumental) return on their hard dollar investments. And the shareholders of Google would expect a return on their investment. Google has many choices to make: where to throw $1B is a big choice and one that Google&#039;s shareholders would expect to yield dividends.

If Google were to throw $1B at Skype, the expectation is that they would have to monetize that fickle audience. Google&#039;s primary method of monetization today is advertising.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am the monkey who stated that Google&#8217;s business is advertising. Forgive me for quoting sentence one of the &#8220;How we generate revenue&#8221; section of the management discussion in Google&#8217;s most recent Form 10-Q:</p>
<p>&#8220;We derive most of our revenues from fees we receive from our advertisers.&#8221;</p>
<p>You may live in an ideal world where broadband access appears for free from the heavens and corporations exist for the sole purpose of creating pleasing things. Congratulations.</p>
<p>Free voice is very compelling. Skype is a wonderful product. But the shareholders of Skype expect a (perhaps monumental) return on their hard dollar investments. And the shareholders of Google would expect a return on their investment. Google has many choices to make: where to throw $1B is a big choice and one that Google&#8217;s shareholders would expect to yield dividends.</p>
<p>If Google were to throw $1B at Skype, the expectation is that they would have to monetize that fickle audience. Google&#8217;s primary method of monetization today is advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: Harvitpal</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yay, some one with a head on their shoulders! Well done NITIN AHUJA. Yes none of the current incumbents can beat the P2P model with all the VoIP equipment they can buy form the likes of Cisco, Nortel Avaya etc. They have no infrustructure! How can you beat a model like that! Yes people will open up ports to share their bandwith for the use of Skype. Why? Cause they are no longer paying for calls and hey bandwith is becoming cheaper by the day.
Skype is going to kill the voice revenue across the globe. We use Skype at work and are saving thousands of dollars. A matter of time until everyone figures that out. Yes I think Google will come out with an IM/VoIP service. Not to make money from, but to provide an additional feature to their current set of features and free voice is very compeling. No Google&#039;s core business is not advertising for the monkey who suggested that before. Google is an organistation that built a serach engine but by no means are they going to restrict their business to search. They are obviously growing organiscally around search and making money from it. But if you learn more about what Google is about, you will figure out that they are basically a commercialised research body. Like a univeristy that has the freedom to make money with the research they do and also provide it to the community in large to make our lives better.
I think skype rocks. Go down load it from skype.com, NOW!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay, some one with a head on their shoulders! Well done NITIN AHUJA. Yes none of the current incumbents can beat the P2P model with all the VoIP equipment they can buy form the likes of Cisco, Nortel Avaya etc. They have no infrustructure! How can you beat a model like that! Yes people will open up ports to share their bandwith for the use of Skype. Why? Cause they are no longer paying for calls and hey bandwith is becoming cheaper by the day.<br />
Skype is going to kill the voice revenue across the globe. We use Skype at work and are saving thousands of dollars. A matter of time until everyone figures that out. Yes I think Google will come out with an IM/VoIP service. Not to make money from, but to provide an additional feature to their current set of features and free voice is very compeling. No Google&#8217;s core business is not advertising for the monkey who suggested that before. Google is an organistation that built a serach engine but by no means are they going to restrict their business to search. They are obviously growing organiscally around search and making money from it. But if you learn more about what Google is about, you will figure out that they are basically a commercialised research body. Like a univeristy that has the freedom to make money with the research they do and also provide it to the community in large to make our lives better.<br />
I think skype rocks. Go down load it from skype.com, NOW!</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 08:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chuaka, I thought www.gizmoproject.com was an open version of Skype? Anyone know?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuaka, I thought <a href="http://www.gizmoproject.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.gizmoproject.com</a> was an open version of Skype? Anyone know?</p>
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		<title>By: Teller</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 06:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;They&quot; are not smocking crack in Estonia. Only Skype engineering is in Tallinn, Estonia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They&#8221; are not smocking crack in Estonia. Only Skype engineering is in Tallinn, Estonia.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/08/09/maybe-skype-is-shopping-itself/#comment-106281</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 03:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Google-must-buy-Skype meme comes up over and over.

Discounting whether or not Google is evil or wonderful, Google&#039;s business is advertising. When I see articles proclaiming that Google must buy an IM client or Google must buy Skype, I have to wonder where are the IM and Skype users (I know - one and the same) that want to have advertising crammed down their throats on their Skype client. Sheesh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Google-must-buy-Skype meme comes up over and over.</p>
<p>Discounting whether or not Google is evil or wonderful, Google&#8217;s business is advertising. When I see articles proclaiming that Google must buy an IM client or Google must buy Skype, I have to wonder where are the IM and Skype users (I know &#8211; one and the same) that want to have advertising crammed down their throats on their Skype client. Sheesh.</p>
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		<title>By: The Hitchhiker&#8217;s Guide to 650 :: How RBOC Can Clamp Down On Skype :: August :: 2005</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Hitchhiker&#8217;s Guide to 650 :: How RBOC Can Clamp Down On Skype :: August :: 2005]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 02:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] echnologyAugust 9, 2005 7:20 pm  	How RBOC Can Clamp Down On Skype          	In Om&#8217;s latest post on Skype&#8217;s acquisition rumors (more here), he left quite a bomb at [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] echnologyAugust 9, 2005 7:20 pm  	How RBOC Can Clamp Down On Skype          	In Om&#8217;s latest post on Skype&#8217;s acquisition rumors (more here), he left quite a bomb at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Hitchhiker&#8217;s Guide to 650 :: How RBOC Can Clamp Down On Skype :: August :: 2005</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Hitchhiker&#8217;s Guide to 650 :: How RBOC Can Clamp Down On Skype :: August :: 2005]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 02:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] echnologyAugust 9, 2005 7:20 pm  	How RBOC Can Clamp Down On Skype          	In Om&#8217;s latest post on Skype&#8217;s acquisition rumors (more here), he left quite a bomb at [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] echnologyAugust 9, 2005 7:20 pm  	How RBOC Can Clamp Down On Skype          	In Om&#8217;s latest post on Skype&#8217;s acquisition rumors (more here), he left quite a bomb at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Hitchhiker&#8217;s Guide to 650 :: How RBOC Can Clamp Down On Skype :: August :: 2005</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/08/09/maybe-skype-is-shopping-itself/#comment-168560</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Hitchhiker&#8217;s Guide to 650 :: How RBOC Can Clamp Down On Skype :: August :: 2005]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 02:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] echnologyAugust 9, 2005 7:20 pm  	How RBOC Can Clamp Down On Skype          	In Om&#8217;s latest post on Skype&#8217;s acquisition rumors (more here), he left quite a bomb at [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] echnologyAugust 9, 2005 7:20 pm  	How RBOC Can Clamp Down On Skype          	In Om&#8217;s latest post on Skype&#8217;s acquisition rumors (more here), he left quite a bomb at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NITIN AHUJA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NITIN AHUJA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2005 22:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The telcos can never beat the P2P model that Skype uses, they are regulated and mostly operate within local markets. Plus the QoS issue is more generic to the VoIP platform as such and does not just apply to Skype. I think with some hand holding (Google type), and considering their span (worldwide), I think they can go places.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The telcos can never beat the P2P model that Skype uses, they are regulated and mostly operate within local markets. Plus the QoS issue is more generic to the VoIP platform as such and does not just apply to Skype. I think with some hand holding (Google type), and considering their span (worldwide), I think they can go places.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Neamu Weblog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/08/09/maybe-skype-is-shopping-itself/#comment-106278</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Neamu Weblog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2005 21:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Google vs. Yahoo - the battle moves on&lt;/strong&gt;

Whenever we think that things are cooling down for a while, not one, but both search engine giants jump up to remind us the war is not over yet.Just yesterday Yahoo! announced that:we have grown our index and just reached a significant milestone at Yahoo!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Google vs. Yahoo &#8211; the battle moves on</strong></p>
<p>Whenever we think that things are cooling down for a while, not one, but both search engine giants jump up to remind us the war is not over yet.Just yesterday Yahoo! announced that:we have grown our index and just reached a significant milestone at Yahoo!</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/08/09/maybe-skype-is-shopping-itself/#comment-106277</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2005 20:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think muni or co-op ISPs will end up being that different from any other infrastructure provider.

If you own and operate the infrastructure, you get to make decisions about how it is used and how it is monetized. Public networks may actually have more problems in getting this right because they deal with more voices. When a cableco is evil, you can usually figure it out because of the obvious motive. Munis and Coops end up with numerous motives and opinions. Just think about how your local public schools operate.

Shortly after the town of Muttsville builds out a muni network with high ideals and tax dollars, Cisco will whisper in the ears of the IT guys operating the network that it would be very high minded to offer telephony on that network. After all, wouldn&#039;t it be great if the free networking put in the public schools for the children included a phone in every classroom. Plus, the IT guys would add another few letters to their Cisco certifications, the IT department would add a couple more headcount, and what a grand project that will be.

Soon the town council will be given the proposal and they will agree that it will be of great benefit to all to start the Muttsville Telephone Cooperative on the muni network. And it&#039;s great that the mayor&#039;s own son-in-law knows enough about eye-pee to join the IT department and participate.

Time marches on. The take rate for telephony is luke warm and suddenly the added use-tax for telephony isn&#039;t covering the added expense. &quot;No problem&quot; sayeth Cisco sales dude &quot;We&#039;ve seen this before in Cattsville.&quot; You need a thing called packet shaping and policy management on your network. With packet shaping and policy management, you can really really really make sure that Muttsville Telephone Cooperative offers the best kind of service.

And the other Skypes and Vonages of the world offer the worst. Before you know it, for the greater good of the children of Muttsville and the benefit of the Muttsville Telephone Cooperative, Skype is mucked with.

People, groups, councils, organizations, governments, corporations - they all make decisions on policy. Since the technology exists to readily squash various applications on a network, you can be assured that policies will be created to do so. The only things that change, with some subtlety perhaps, are the motivations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think muni or co-op ISPs will end up being that different from any other infrastructure provider.</p>
<p>If you own and operate the infrastructure, you get to make decisions about how it is used and how it is monetized. Public networks may actually have more problems in getting this right because they deal with more voices. When a cableco is evil, you can usually figure it out because of the obvious motive. Munis and Coops end up with numerous motives and opinions. Just think about how your local public schools operate.</p>
<p>Shortly after the town of Muttsville builds out a muni network with high ideals and tax dollars, Cisco will whisper in the ears of the IT guys operating the network that it would be very high minded to offer telephony on that network. After all, wouldn&#8217;t it be great if the free networking put in the public schools for the children included a phone in every classroom. Plus, the IT guys would add another few letters to their Cisco certifications, the IT department would add a couple more headcount, and what a grand project that will be.</p>
<p>Soon the town council will be given the proposal and they will agree that it will be of great benefit to all to start the Muttsville Telephone Cooperative on the muni network. And it&#8217;s great that the mayor&#8217;s own son-in-law knows enough about eye-pee to join the IT department and participate.</p>
<p>Time marches on. The take rate for telephony is luke warm and suddenly the added use-tax for telephony isn&#8217;t covering the added expense. &#8220;No problem&#8221; sayeth Cisco sales dude &#8220;We&#8217;ve seen this before in Cattsville.&#8221; You need a thing called packet shaping and policy management on your network. With packet shaping and policy management, you can really really really make sure that Muttsville Telephone Cooperative offers the best kind of service.</p>
<p>And the other Skypes and Vonages of the world offer the worst. Before you know it, for the greater good of the children of Muttsville and the benefit of the Muttsville Telephone Cooperative, Skype is mucked with.</p>
<p>People, groups, councils, organizations, governments, corporations &#8211; they all make decisions on policy. Since the technology exists to readily squash various applications on a network, you can be assured that policies will be created to do so. The only things that change, with some subtlety perhaps, are the motivations.</p>
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