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	<title>Comments on: Will Gizmo Project thwart Skype?</title>
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		<title>By: SnapperTalk &#187; Project Gizmo&#160;by Ben Curtis</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/07/02/will-gizmo-project-thwart-skype/#comment-18096</link>
		<dc:creator>SnapperTalk &#187; Project Gizmo&#160;by Ben Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gizmo Project CEO on why Skype bad, Gizmo good The Register article Om Malik article Chris Holland article Simon Perry article   Permalink [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Om Malik&#8217;s Broadband Blog &#187; Some Changes at SIPphone</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/07/02/will-gizmo-project-thwart-skype/#comment-18095</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik&#8217;s Broadband Blog &#187; Some Changes at SIPphone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 00:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ured me that it was more of a personal decision and things are going well at SIPphone, and The Gizmo Project.   Michael Robertson wrote back in an email: &#8220;Jeff&#8217;s  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ured me that it was more of a personal decision and things are going well at SIPphone, and The Gizmo Project.   Michael Robertson wrote back in an email: &#8220;Jeff&#8217;s  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/07/02/will-gizmo-project-thwart-skype/#comment-18094</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just Delete the .wav file Gizmo plays when you press the record button.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just Delete the .wav file Gizmo plays when you press the record button.</p>
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		<title>By: digi</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/07/02/will-gizmo-project-thwart-skype/#comment-18092</link>
		<dc:creator>digi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 01:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is illegal in the United States to record a call without the other party being aware. So we always play this file when a call is being recorded..

It's possible there might be ways around this mechanism.. but I'm not about to tell!.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is illegal in the United States to record a call without the other party being aware. So we always play this file when a call is being recorded..</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible there might be ways around this mechanism.. but I&#8217;m not about to tell!.</p>
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		<title>By: linda</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/07/02/will-gizmo-project-thwart-skype/#comment-18090</link>
		<dc:creator>linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any way to shut off the Record Notification?  I got Gizmo specifically to use with business conference training calls and would like to recommend it to others in my group ... but think it would be rather annoying to hear dozens of 'Call being recorded' messages every time someone records the training.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any way to shut off the Record Notification?  I got Gizmo specifically to use with business conference training calls and would like to recommend it to others in my group &#8230; but think it would be rather annoying to hear dozens of &#8216;Call being recorded&#8217; messages every time someone records the training.</p>
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		<title>By: SIPthat.com</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/07/02/will-gizmo-project-thwart-skype/#comment-18089</link>
		<dc:creator>SIPthat.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2005 19:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;IM VoIP Clients - Interop is Key&lt;/strong&gt;

Aswath has created a bit of a stir with his recent post regarding Gizmo and Pulver Communicator. Jeff Pulver had something to say about Gizmo on his blog as well. All in all I think we need to remember that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>IM VoIP Clients - Interop is Key</strong></p>
<p>Aswath has created a bit of a stir with his recent post regarding Gizmo and Pulver Communicator. Jeff Pulver had something to say about Gizmo on his blog as well. All in all I think we need to remember that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: - SnapperTalk - &#187; Project Gizmo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/07/02/will-gizmo-project-thwart-skype/#comment-18088</link>
		<dc:creator>- SnapperTalk - &#187; Project Gizmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2005 12:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ndly, and works well. 	Gizmo Project CEO on why Skype bad, Gizmo good The Register article Om Malik article Chris Holland article Simon Perry article 	 	 	                 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ndly, and works well. 	Gizmo Project CEO on why Skype bad, Gizmo good The Register article Om Malik article Chris Holland article Simon Perry article 	</p>
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		<title>By: Wikilab &#187; Gizmo, l&#8217;anti-Skype di Michael Robertson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/07/02/will-gizmo-project-thwart-skype/#comment-18087</link>
		<dc:creator>Wikilab &#187; Gizmo, l&#8217;anti-Skype di Michael Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] e il rischio del lock-in. Spero che Gizmo aiuti a ridurre l&#8217;opacità di Skype. 	[Via Om Malik]  						 			 			 			Permalink 			 			 		 		 		    	  				 		   	Leave a Co [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] e il rischio del lock-in. Spero che Gizmo aiuti a ridurre l&#8217;opacità di Skype. 	[Via Om Malik]  						 			 			 			Permalink 			 			 		 		 		    	  				 		   	Leave a Co [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LG</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/07/02/will-gizmo-project-thwart-skype/#comment-18086</link>
		<dc:creator>LG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gizmo looks great, interface wise, but I have a couple of initial concerns.
The first one is, despite it appearing to use the SIPPhone servers (and assigning you a SIPPhone 1-747 number), it doesn't play well with existing sipphone.com accounts. I tried to log in using my existing SIPPhone.com account, and whilst I was able to log in and make SIP calls, I didn't have access to my SIPPhone phonebook (which I created via the my.sipphone.com tool), and it didn't display my call credit (it reported $0.00).
When I tried to make a call to a landline, it would ring once or twice, then hang up

So I gave Gizmo the benefit of the doubt, and created a new account. This went a lot smoother, and once I confirmed my email address they were nice enough to give me 0.25c free calling credit... Which was great, although I did already have $10-11 worth of it in my *other* SIPPhone account.

Which brings me to the real problem: Voice quality.
I don't know what it's like for US to US calling, but for Australia to Australia calling, it's abysmal (and always has been pretty bad). The latency is almost always too high for comfort, the call quality is poor with frequent echo and strange background harmonics, it's generally a fairly unsatisfying experience.

I put up with this while I was travelling at the end of last year because calls to Australia were free to anyone who had purchased some prepaid credit. But if Gizmo is to succeed, they'll have to spend some time getting SIPPhone.com's termination up to scratch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gizmo looks great, interface wise, but I have a couple of initial concerns.<br />
The first one is, despite it appearing to use the SIPPhone servers (and assigning you a SIPPhone 1-747 number), it doesn&#8217;t play well with existing sipphone.com accounts. I tried to log in using my existing SIPPhone.com account, and whilst I was able to log in and make SIP calls, I didn&#8217;t have access to my SIPPhone phonebook (which I created via the my.sipphone.com tool), and it didn&#8217;t display my call credit (it reported $0.00).<br />
When I tried to make a call to a landline, it would ring once or twice, then hang up</p>
<p>So I gave Gizmo the benefit of the doubt, and created a new account. This went a lot smoother, and once I confirmed my email address they were nice enough to give me 0.25c free calling credit&#8230; Which was great, although I did already have $10-11 worth of it in my *other* SIPPhone account.</p>
<p>Which brings me to the real problem: Voice quality.<br />
I don&#8217;t know what it&#8217;s like for US to US calling, but for Australia to Australia calling, it&#8217;s abysmal (and always has been pretty bad). The latency is almost always too high for comfort, the call quality is poor with frequent echo and strange background harmonics, it&#8217;s generally a fairly unsatisfying experience.</p>
<p>I put up with this while I was travelling at the end of last year because calls to Australia were free to anyone who had purchased some prepaid credit. But if Gizmo is to succeed, they&#8217;ll have to spend some time getting SIPPhone.com&#8217;s termination up to scratch.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Arrington</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/07/02/will-gizmo-project-thwart-skype/#comment-18084</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Arrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We banged away on Gizmo for a day and there are some great features - recording (with notification to everyone on the call), unlimited number of participants (if most people keep mute on) and the mapping tool is really cool.

Their is a huge need for text IM though. It's such an easy add, you'd think they'd have put it in the beta.

We've also played around with vskype - I actually like the application sharing more than the video feature. If they added application sharing to gizmo as well, I'd be in love with it forever (or until something cooler came out). :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We banged away on Gizmo for a day and there are some great features - recording (with notification to everyone on the call), unlimited number of participants (if most people keep mute on) and the mapping tool is really cool.</p>
<p>Their is a huge need for text IM though. It&#8217;s such an easy add, you&#8217;d think they&#8217;d have put it in the beta.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve also played around with vskype - I actually like the application sharing more than the video feature. If they added application sharing to gizmo as well, I&#8217;d be in love with it forever (or until something cooler came out). :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in the Gizmo forum and noticed a comment on the lack of texting.  The response from a source said it is forthcoming.  Because SipPhone has already texting in their PhoneGaim product, it's simply taking that core and transferring it over to Gizmo.

Why the multiple softphones from Gizmo, I don't know.  I suppose they will shut the other ones down eventually.  Gizmo appears to be a winner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in the Gizmo forum and noticed a comment on the lack of texting.  The response from a source said it is forthcoming.  Because SipPhone has already texting in their PhoneGaim product, it&#8217;s simply taking that core and transferring it over to Gizmo.</p>
<p>Why the multiple softphones from Gizmo, I don&#8217;t know.  I suppose they will shut the other ones down eventually.  Gizmo appears to be a winner.</p>
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		<title>By: leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2005 18:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't see that it will be that long before Skype add recording out of the box so to speak.</description>
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		<title>By: Stuart Henshall</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/07/02/will-gizmo-project-thwart-skype/#comment-18079</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart Henshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2005 18:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Om,
I've had some great comments from Michael on the Gizmo project. The big omission at this point is no texting capability. Recording is a big bonus and the sooner Skype fixes that omission the better. I'd like to see this open source and with an API, then it really would be compelling.
Cheers
Stuart</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Om,<br />
I&#8217;ve had some great comments from Michael on the Gizmo project. The big omission at this point is no texting capability. Recording is a big bonus and the sooner Skype fixes that omission the better. I&#8217;d like to see this open source and with an API, then it really would be compelling.<br />
Cheers<br />
Stuart</p>
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