Comments on: Skype rules, but for how long? http://gigaom.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:02:37 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Skype-Directory.com http://gigaom.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16430 Skype-Directory.com Thu, 29 Jun 2006 06:09:31 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16430 <p>An Open Directory exits, see the website presented here.</p> An Open Directory exits, see the website presented here.

]]> By: Skype-Directory.com http://gigaom.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16429 Skype-Directory.com Thu, 29 Jun 2006 06:08:41 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16429 <p>We have an open solution. There exists a voluntary, independent, open, Skype Directory here, built by Skype Users and Businesses. http://www.skype-directory.com</p> We have an open solution. There exists a voluntary, independent, open, Skype Directory here, built by Skype Users and Businesses. http://www.skype-directory.com

]]> By: SIPthat.com http://gigaom.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16427 SIPthat.com Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:49:33 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16427 <p><strong>P2P VoIP using SIP and Open Standards</strong></p> <p>Every operator/portal/service provider/mso [Yahoo,AOL,Gizmo,Comcast, Verizon,EarthLink,etc.] out there are rushing to create, or recreate, an IM VoIP soft client that has all the appeal of Skype with open standard compatibility. Since the most predomin...</p> P2P VoIP using SIP and Open Standards

Every operator/portal/service provider/mso [Yahoo,AOL,Gizmo,Comcast, Verizon,EarthLink,etc.] out there are rushing to create, or recreate, an IM VoIP soft client that has all the appeal of Skype with open standard compatibility. Since the most predomin…

]]> By: Michael Robertson http://gigaom.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16426 Michael Robertson Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:04:42 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16426 <p>You shouldn't have to support Skype's API to "kinda" work together. Skype's directory should be open to others to access. Otherwise net calling world will suffer the same fate as IM - a balkanized system with different people on different systems unable to communicate.</p> <p>You should only support voip providers committed to an open, interconnected directory. SIPphone recently released Gizmo (see: www.gizmoproject.com) which is a capable skype competitor and has some snazzy new features like mapping. Most importantly, Gizmo interconnects with everyone unlike Skype. This is very important for the sane development of the VOIP world.</p> <p>Mac/Win versions of Gizmo are out now with Lin coming soon.</p> <p>-- Michael</p> You shouldn’t have to support Skype’s API to “kinda” work together. Skype’s directory should be open to others to access. Otherwise net calling world will suffer the same fate as IM – a balkanized system with different people on different systems unable to communicate.

You should only support voip providers committed to an open, interconnected directory. SIPphone recently released Gizmo (see: http://www.gizmoproject.com) which is a capable skype competitor and has some snazzy new features like mapping. Most importantly, Gizmo interconnects with everyone unlike Skype. This is very important for the sane development of the VOIP world.

Mac/Win versions of Gizmo are out now with Lin coming soon.

– Michael

]]> By: Asylum MI news test » Skype, Yahoo in merger talks?Om Malik’s Broadband Blog http://gigaom.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16424 Asylum MI news test » Skype, Yahoo in merger talks?Om Malik’s Broadband Blog Fri, 10 Jun 2005 06:51:52 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16424 <p>[...] on Skype. There maybe a revenue share deal in the offering! That would make my recent post on Skype, more relevant. I have a feeling that two companies could be working on way [...]</p> [...] on Skype. There maybe a revenue share deal in the offering! That would make my recent post on Skype, more relevant. I have a feeling that two companies could be working on way [...]

]]> By: Om Malik’s Broadband Blog » Skype, Yahoo in merger talks? http://gigaom.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16425 Om Malik’s Broadband Blog » Skype, Yahoo in merger talks? Fri, 10 Jun 2005 03:21:36 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16425 <p>[...] on Skype. There maybe a revenue share deal in the offering! That would make my recent post on Skype, more relevant. I have a feeling that two companies could be working on ways [...]</p> [...] on Skype. There maybe a revenue share deal in the offering! That would make my recent post on Skype, more relevant. I have a feeling that two companies could be working on ways [...]

]]> By: Phones http://gigaom.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16422 Phones Wed, 08 Jun 2005 02:41:37 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16422 <p><strong>Skype Rules ... How Long?</strong></p> <p>Click through for a thorough analsyis of Skype's business:...</p> Skype Rules … How Long?

Click through for a thorough analsyis of Skype’s business:…

]]> By: Aswath Rao http://gigaom.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16409 Aswath Rao Tue, 07 Jun 2005 18:20:16 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16409 <p>Is it true that Peerio is not running the Skype client at all, not even in the "Skype gateway"? Somewhere, somebody has to convert the Skype signaling messages to Peerio messages. Yes that conversion can be done with the help of Skype API. But to access that API, Skype client must be running. So it will be a real feat if Peerio has avoided the use of Skype altogether.</p> Is it true that Peerio is not running the Skype client at all, not even in the “Skype gateway”? Somewhere, somebody has to convert the Skype signaling messages to Peerio messages. Yes that conversion can be done with the help of Skype API. But to access that API, Skype client must be running. So it will be a real feat if Peerio has avoided the use of Skype altogether.

]]> By: Om Malik http://gigaom.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16407 Om Malik Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:38:11 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16407 <p>but that's not what guys at peerio have done. which is the difference. i think if that transparent to-and-from communication can happen - then skype network becomes more valuable at the same time prone to risk of being sidelined. i think running two clients at the same time doesn't make much sense. so perhaps pulver communicator should have a way to talk to skype without booting up two software clients.</p> but that’s not what guys at peerio have done. which is the difference. i think if that transparent to-and-from communication can happen – then skype network becomes more valuable at the same time prone to risk of being sidelined. i think running two clients at the same time doesn’t make much sense. so perhaps pulver communicator should have a way to talk to skype without booting up two software clients.

]]> By: MichaelK http://gigaom.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16405 MichaelK Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:23:52 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16405 <p>Om, an important clarification...pulver.Communicator does support Skype, however users of the application must be registered to Skype and have the Skype software running on their system to enjoy its benefits.</p> <p>Once configured, Communicator opens the Skype client at start-up and thereafter runs all communications to-from Skypers through it. As such, assuming other IM clients will work in the same or similar manners the Skype footprint cannot be affected in a negative manner (thought such functionality can, of course, affect said footprint in the positive by causing non-Skypers to register/download so they can bridge their IM client apps to their Skype buddies).</p> Om, an important clarification…pulver.Communicator does support Skype, however users of the application must be registered to Skype and have the Skype software running on their system to enjoy its benefits.

Once configured, Communicator opens the Skype client at start-up and thereafter runs all communications to-from Skypers through it. As such, assuming other IM clients will work in the same or similar manners the Skype footprint cannot be affected in a negative manner (thought such functionality can, of course, affect said footprint in the positive by causing non-Skypers to register/download so they can bridge their IM client apps to their Skype buddies).

]]> By: Om Malik http://gigaom.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16403 Om Malik Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:26:27 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16403 <p>Yes that is if you take only service - SKype - into account. the point I am trying to make is that, with the API now other services can plug into Skype and hence make signing up for Skype less important. which is why I think Skype has alunched an affiliates program so they can keep growing/</p> Yes that is if you take only service – SKype – into account. the point I am trying to make is that, with the API now other services can plug into Skype and hence make signing up for Skype less important. which is why I think Skype has alunched an affiliates program so they can keep growing/

]]> By: Aswath Rao http://gigaom.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16423 Aswath Rao Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:16:52 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/06/07/skype-rules-but-for-how-long/#comment-16423 <p>The following are my guess on how Peerio/Skype really works (some differ from yours). 1. All Peerio clients will have their own Skype ID. 2. Peerio gateway becomes Skype supernode for all these clients. 3. Skype partners will take care of interconnecting Peerio clients to PSTN. 4. PT clients support same codec and encryption as used by Skype.</p> <p>What does Skype get with this 1. Enterprises wanted to control their Skype supernode. With this architecture, Skype has given that. 2. Skype needed PBX like features; shared call appearence, bridging etc. If PT's claim is true, then Skype gets these features. 3. Skype can repeat this kind of arrangement with other players.</p> <p>What does Peerio get with this 1. They do not have to develop media gateways; it gets it via SkypeOut/In.</p> The following are my guess on how Peerio/Skype really works (some differ from yours). 1. All Peerio clients will have their own Skype ID. 2. Peerio gateway becomes Skype supernode for all these clients. 3. Skype partners will take care of interconnecting Peerio clients to PSTN. 4. PT clients support same codec and encryption as used by Skype.

What does Skype get with this 1. Enterprises wanted to control their Skype supernode. With this architecture, Skype has given that. 2. Skype needed PBX like features; shared call appearence, bridging etc. If PT’s claim is true, then Skype gets these features. 3. Skype can repeat this kind of arrangement with other players.

What does Peerio get with this 1. They do not have to develop media gateways; it gets it via SkypeOut/In.

]]>