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		<title>By: strangedomains.com</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/23/of-bittorrent-search-possible-legal-problems/#comment-13751</link>
		<dc:creator>strangedomains.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Domain name legaltorrent.com for sale on ebay:&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Domain name legaltorrent.com for sale on ebay:</p>

<p><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=5789316824" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=5789316824</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tolver</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/23/of-bittorrent-search-possible-legal-problems/#comment-13750</link>
		<dc:creator>Tolver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2005 00:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For $1 per month OR $10 per year, we will Seed One (1) LEGAL Torrent of your choice of up to 100 MB. Once you are verified through PayPal you will be allowed to upload a torrent file to our server and we will begin to Leech it as soon as it passes Human Verification of being a LEGAL Torrent File. After we have Leached the entire Torrent we will become a 24/7 Seed for your Torrent. We will always be Seeding your Torrents for all your Lechers as a Second or Only Seed.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For $1 per month OR $10 per year, we will Seed One (1) LEGAL Torrent of your choice of up to 100 MB. Once you are verified through PayPal you will be allowed to upload a torrent file to our server and we will begin to Leech it as soon as it passes Human Verification of being a LEGAL Torrent File. After we have Leached the entire Torrent we will become a 24/7 Seed for your Torrent. We will always be Seeding your Torrents for all your Lechers as a Second or Only Seed.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Torrent Search</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/23/of-bittorrent-search-possible-legal-problems/#comment-13749</link>
		<dc:creator>Torrent Search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2005 02:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There are pleanty of torrent search sites that don&#039;t get sued and if any will there will be much more coming up&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are pleanty of torrent search sites that don&#8217;t get sued and if any will there will be much more coming up</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mostly Podcasting</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/23/of-bittorrent-search-possible-legal-problems/#comment-13748</link>
		<dc:creator>Mostly Podcasting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 13:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;All things BitTorrent&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;Show notes for the second podcast:
Bram Cohen
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&lt;p&gt;BitTorrent goes trackerless
Amand Congdon (Rocketboom)b
John Battelle
Om Malik
Azureus
BitComet
Videora (I said Vimeo in the podcast)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>All things BitTorrent</strong></p>

<pre><code>Show notes for the second podcast:
Bram Cohen
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<p>BitTorrent goes trackerless
Amand Congdon (Rocketboom)b
John Battelle
Om Malik
Azureus
BitComet
Videora (I said Vimeo in the podcast)</p>

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		<title>By: Mike D.</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/23/of-bittorrent-search-possible-legal-problems/#comment-13747</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 05:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Doc: Unfortunately guns are a special case because of that damned 2nd amendment, but even so, yes, the majority of guns are used for legal purposes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The argument is that guns are used for legitimate useful things every day and thus they should not be banned outright... only regulated.  BitTorrent, however, up to this point, is really not used for many legitimate legal things at all.  Yes, I know, there is some legal content out there, but if the ratio of legal-to-illegal activity of guns was the same as it is with BitTorrent, we&#039;d be repealing the 2nd amendment in a heartbeat.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc: Unfortunately guns are a special case because of that damned 2nd amendment, but even so, yes, the majority of guns are used for legal purposes.</p>

<p>The argument is that guns are used for legitimate useful things every day and thus they should not be banned outright&#8230; only regulated.  BitTorrent, however, up to this point, is really not used for many legitimate legal things at all.  Yes, I know, there is some legal content out there, but if the ratio of legal-to-illegal activity of guns was the same as it is with BitTorrent, we&#8217;d be repealing the 2nd amendment in a heartbeat.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: docwho76</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/23/of-bittorrent-search-possible-legal-problems/#comment-13746</link>
		<dc:creator>docwho76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 01:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh and with regards to the &quot;majority use&quot; of an item, lets look at it in a different viewpoint. Would you say use of  guns is usually for lawful reasons or unlawful reasons? Sure, guns are heavily regulated by the Feds here in the US but that hasn&#039;t stopped numerous unsavory types from getting guns illegally. I think one could safely safe that similar things would happen to torrents as well. I could be wrong however.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and with regards to the &#8220;majority use&#8221; of an item, lets look at it in a different viewpoint. Would you say use of  guns is usually for lawful reasons or unlawful reasons? Sure, guns are heavily regulated by the Feds here in the US but that hasn&#8217;t stopped numerous unsavory types from getting guns illegally. I think one could safely safe that similar things would happen to torrents as well. I could be wrong however.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: docwho76</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/23/of-bittorrent-search-possible-legal-problems/#comment-13745</link>
		<dc:creator>docwho76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 01:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;legal material&quot; is highly subjective. Sure, youve got the WIPO treaty and all of that but different countries have different definitions of what is and is not legal material or use thereof. For a good example of this one has to just go look over the cease and desist letters that have been sent to www.thepiratebay.org and see how they responded to those threats of legal action.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;legal material&#8221; is highly subjective. Sure, youve got the WIPO treaty and all of that but different countries have different definitions of what is and is not legal material or use thereof. For a good example of this one has to just go look over the cease and desist letters that have been sent to <a href="http://www.thepiratebay.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.thepiratebay.org</a> and see how they responded to those threats of legal action.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mike D.</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/23/of-bittorrent-search-possible-legal-problems/#comment-13744</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 01:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Generally, the &quot;sueability&quot; rule has gone as follows:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If a service exists entirely or almost entirely to help people break the law, the courts have ruled against it. If a service exists for all sorts of reasons and one of them happens to facilitate the breaking of a law, courts have stayed away.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is why Napster was shut down and Hotline wasn&#039;t.  All activity on Napster (or at least 99% of it) revolved around the illegal distribution of music and that&#039;s why it was so quickly and easily shut down. Hotline, on the other hand, was a breeding ground for much worse piracy than Napster (Adobe software, Microsoft software, movies, music, etc) but it didn&#039;t receive the same sort of treatment because it was used for chatting, classroom collaboration, and all sorts of other legitimate purposes.  This is the same reason why Google will likely not get sued for having links to illegal content in their search results.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The key here to me is when and how BitTorrent will be used to distribute legal material.  Yes, I know, you can already get plenty of legal stuff via BT, but let&#039;s not kid ourselves... it&#039;s not what most people are looking for.  Until BitTorrent can prove itself as a legitimate avenue for distributing &lt;em&gt;legal&lt;/em&gt; &lt;em&gt;desireable&lt;/em&gt; content in high amounts, it will always have this stigma surrounding it in the eyes of the law.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generally, the &#8220;sueability&#8221; rule has gone as follows:</p>

<p>If a service exists entirely or almost entirely to help people break the law, the courts have ruled against it. If a service exists for all sorts of reasons and one of them happens to facilitate the breaking of a law, courts have stayed away.</p>

<p>This is why Napster was shut down and Hotline wasn&#8217;t.  All activity on Napster (or at least 99% of it) revolved around the illegal distribution of music and that&#8217;s why it was so quickly and easily shut down. Hotline, on the other hand, was a breeding ground for much worse piracy than Napster (Adobe software, Microsoft software, movies, music, etc) but it didn&#8217;t receive the same sort of treatment because it was used for chatting, classroom collaboration, and all sorts of other legitimate purposes.  This is the same reason why Google will likely not get sued for having links to illegal content in their search results.</p>

<p>The key here to me is when and how BitTorrent will be used to distribute legal material.  Yes, I know, you can already get plenty of legal stuff via BT, but let&#8217;s not kid ourselves&#8230; it&#8217;s not what most people are looking for.  Until BitTorrent can prove itself as a legitimate avenue for distributing <em>legal</em> <em>desireable</em> content in high amounts, it will always have this stigma surrounding it in the eyes of the law.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: MasterMaq's Blog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/23/of-bittorrent-search-possible-legal-problems/#comment-13743</link>
		<dc:creator>MasterMaq's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2005 01:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;BitTorrent Search&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;According to Wired News, Bram Cohen, who created BitTorrent, and his team of developers are getting ready...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>BitTorrent Search</strong></p>

<p>According to Wired News, Bram Cohen, who created BitTorrent, and his team of developers are getting ready&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/23/of-bittorrent-search-possible-legal-problems/#comment-13742</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2005 20:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes.... you are right. my apologies, and there is no excuse for lazy blogging. i have, thanks to you, made the corrections.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes&#8230;. you are right. my apologies, and there is no excuse for lazy blogging. i have, thanks to you, made the corrections.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/23/of-bittorrent-search-possible-legal-problems/#comment-13741</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2005 19:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So this time you are the one forgetting to give credit to the scoop that happened on Wired News? Yet, you are quick to whine when you don&#039;t get your credit disclaimed...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this time you are the one forgetting to give credit to the scoop that happened on Wired News? Yet, you are quick to whine when you don&#8217;t get your credit disclaimed&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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