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	<title>Comments on: Telmex blocking Skype, Vonage in Mexico?</title>
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		<title>By: Angel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/11/telmex-blocking-skype-vonage-in-mexico/#comment-986740</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i have 2mgb package from telmex its like $50 month WTF? i get 5mbg connection from At&amp;T for like $35&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have 2mgb package from telmex its like $50 month WTF? i get 5mbg connection from At&amp;T for like $35</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: JC Trujillo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/11/telmex-blocking-skype-vonage-in-mexico/#comment-961882</link>
		<dc:creator>JC Trujillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Telmex is Still a Monopoly in Mexico and there is not question about the fact service is not good.
Rates of GOD very high. Which eans are not competitive. A very easay way to proof this is that Telmex Claim their rates has not changed the last years.
How can be possible a company can survive and still has profit if the rates are the same than years ago.
That proofs are a bunch of RATS!!!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In the other hand the actitude of Telmex workers has not changed too much. They still believe are the Kings in this market and in the past is very often to see the actitude of this people. Like if the made a favor to Customer when is in the other way. Customer pay their salaries.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In doesn&#039;t how many arguments can be written TELMEX  is Company which service ....Sting...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If we still continue in Mexico with this kind of companies this Country will be always in the same situation or worst.
Companies like Telmex, Comosion Federal de Electricidad, etc. are just a heavy weight for all Mexicans!!!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Telmex is Still a Monopoly in Mexico and there is not question about the fact service is not good.
Rates of GOD very high. Which eans are not competitive. A very easay way to proof this is that Telmex Claim their rates has not changed the last years.
How can be possible a company can survive and still has profit if the rates are the same than years ago.
That proofs are a bunch of RATS!!!</p>

<p>In the other hand the actitude of Telmex workers has not changed too much. They still believe are the Kings in this market and in the past is very often to see the actitude of this people. Like if the made a favor to Customer when is in the other way. Customer pay their salaries.</p>

<p>In doesn&#8217;t how many arguments can be written TELMEX  is Company which service &#8230;.Sting&#8230;</p>

<p>If we still continue in Mexico with this kind of companies this Country will be always in the same situation or worst.
Companies like Telmex, Comosion Federal de Electricidad, etc. are just a heavy weight for all Mexicans!!!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/11/telmex-blocking-skype-vonage-in-mexico/#comment-922317</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Telmex Infinitum&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am in Puerto Escondido Mexico. Skype is just horrible, basically can&#039;t use it. I&#039;ve used it in 2008 and in 2007 and if worked well. What&#039;s going on???
It depends on what part of town you&#039;re living in, some people say it&#039;s fine.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Telmex Infinitum</p>

<p>I am in Puerto Escondido Mexico. Skype is just horrible, basically can&#8217;t use it. I&#8217;ve used it in 2008 and in 2007 and if worked well. What&#8217;s going on???
It depends on what part of town you&#8217;re living in, some people say it&#8217;s fine.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: JEsuzo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/11/telmex-blocking-skype-vonage-in-mexico/#comment-904304</link>
		<dc:creator>JEsuzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The first problem is that Telmex dos not invest in their service... DSL, that shit is slow and is been discontinued and replace for services way faster in other countries.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The second problem is the price. Telmex charges like if their service was great, is expensive and a bad service. A Wimax tower can provided the same service as telmex and it will cost much much less.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And yes. It does not matter what telmex said (they said is not their problem that skype or vonage don&#039;t work) IT IS TELMEX WHO IS BLOCKING THEM... I HAVE NEVER HAVE PROBLES WITH SKYPE OR VONAGE IN USA, IN EUROPE AND SOME OF MY FRIENDS HAVE TRIED THEM IN COLOMBIA AND CHILE... ANDO ONLY IN MEXICO WE HAVE SEEN THIS PROBLEMS.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first problem is that Telmex dos not invest in their service&#8230; DSL, that shit is slow and is been discontinued and replace for services way faster in other countries.</p>

<p>The second problem is the price. Telmex charges like if their service was great, is expensive and a bad service. A Wimax tower can provided the same service as telmex and it will cost much much less.</p>

<p>And yes. It does not matter what telmex said (they said is not their problem that skype or vonage don&#8217;t work) IT IS TELMEX WHO IS BLOCKING THEM&#8230; I HAVE NEVER HAVE PROBLES WITH SKYPE OR VONAGE IN USA, IN EUROPE AND SOME OF MY FRIENDS HAVE TRIED THEM IN COLOMBIA AND CHILE&#8230; ANDO ONLY IN MEXICO WE HAVE SEEN THIS PROBLEMS.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/11/telmex-blocking-skype-vonage-in-mexico/#comment-871830</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am using Telmex DSL service in Pátzcuaro, Mich. My Vonage phone worked fine for several months, then suddenly stopped working. Vonage support finally recomended that I open certain ports through the hardware firewall. Instead, I in effect moved the Vonage IP address completely outside the firewall. This restored service, and Vonage now has no problems.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is unclear why it suddenly became necessary to do this, but at about the same time, Web service via Telmex became very unreliable -- lots of disconnects and connection reset errors. It is now almost impossible to download any large files; some Web sites will not connect (the browser just sits there waiting for response), and I often cannot connect to the AOL POP server (i.e., will not ping). On some days, I only get an email download once or twice all day, even though Outlook checks for mail on the server every five minutes! SMTP seems to work almost all of the time. I have run all of the diagnostics (both mine, Telmex&#039;s and 2Wire&#039;s) and none of them show a problem on my LAN or with the DSL connection (I am about three blocks from the CO, and my DSL signal is very strong), except that I get an indication of suspicious Impulse Noise Comp. Tones. Telmex support agreed there was a problem of some kind, and promised to send a field service tech. three weeks ago -- so far, no show!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anyway, I can assure you that whatever problems Telmex may have, they do not block VOIP.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am using Telmex DSL service in Pátzcuaro, Mich. My Vonage phone worked fine for several months, then suddenly stopped working. Vonage support finally recomended that I open certain ports through the hardware firewall. Instead, I in effect moved the Vonage IP address completely outside the firewall. This restored service, and Vonage now has no problems.</p>

<p>It is unclear why it suddenly became necessary to do this, but at about the same time, Web service via Telmex became very unreliable &#8212; lots of disconnects and connection reset errors. It is now almost impossible to download any large files; some Web sites will not connect (the browser just sits there waiting for response), and I often cannot connect to the AOL POP server (i.e., will not ping). On some days, I only get an email download once or twice all day, even though Outlook checks for mail on the server every five minutes! SMTP seems to work almost all of the time. I have run all of the diagnostics (both mine, Telmex&#8217;s and 2Wire&#8217;s) and none of them show a problem on my LAN or with the DSL connection (I am about three blocks from the CO, and my DSL signal is very strong), except that I get an indication of suspicious Impulse Noise Comp. Tones. Telmex support agreed there was a problem of some kind, and promised to send a field service tech. three weeks ago &#8212; so far, no show!</p>

<p>Anyway, I can assure you that whatever problems Telmex may have, they do not block VOIP.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/11/telmex-blocking-skype-vonage-in-mexico/#comment-124394</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 17:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I also use Vonage a lot and having a good service here in USA. I am returning to Morelia, Michoacan to join my wife and kids. Anybody can recommend a good DSL / ADSL / T1 service for usage of Vonage. Some say Telmex is blocking Vonage. Can somebody recommend a good High Speed service provider at Morelia.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also use Vonage a lot and having a good service here in USA. I am returning to Morelia, Michoacan to join my wife and kids. Anybody can recommend a good DSL / ADSL / T1 service for usage of Vonage. Some say Telmex is blocking Vonage. Can somebody recommend a good High Speed service provider at Morelia.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: javier</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/11/telmex-blocking-skype-vonage-in-mexico/#comment-11619</link>
		<dc:creator>javier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 12:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This TelMex blocking Vonage is not a surprise for me.
TelMex: Carlos Slim are a monopoly that work together wit government...ALL ARE TRASH&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This TelMex blocking Vonage is not a surprise for me.
TelMex: Carlos Slim are a monopoly that work together wit government&#8230;ALL ARE TRASH</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Robert-in-GDL</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/11/telmex-blocking-skype-vonage-in-mexico/#comment-11618</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert-in-GDL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 00:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am in Zapopan(ie Guadalajara metro area) and using Skype over Telecable and have not had problems.  However I want to get hooked up with Vonage when I travel back to the US in July.  But before I go though the effort I want to know how it works with Telecable or ego(At&amp;T).  If anybody has experiance with these other providers or with Telmex in the GDL area please let me know.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in Zapopan(ie Guadalajara metro area) and using Skype over Telecable and have not had problems.  However I want to get hooked up with Vonage when I travel back to the US in July.  But before I go though the effort I want to know how it works with Telecable or ego(At&amp;T).  If anybody has experiance with these other providers or with Telmex in the GDL area please let me know.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/11/telmex-blocking-skype-vonage-in-mexico/#comment-11617</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 03:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Help!!!
 We have Vonage.  We are in Morelia, Michoacan, Mexico.We got it hooked up in late November of 2005. It worked like a dream! It is now 1 February and the quality is so awful and garbled it is virtually unusable! It just ggot REALLY unusable a few days ago when we discontinued our Telmex service. I s this a coincidence or the reason.....
  If not , will the Vonage quality return as mysteriously as it vanished or are we screwed?
   Please respnd...this is the pits!
   Thanks, Wendy E&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Help!!!
 We have Vonage.  We are in Morelia, Michoacan, Mexico.We got it hooked up in late November of 2005. It worked like a dream! It is now 1 February and the quality is so awful and garbled it is virtually unusable! It just ggot REALLY unusable a few days ago when we discontinued our Telmex service. I s this a coincidence or the reason&#8230;..
  If not , will the Vonage quality return as mysteriously as it vanished or are we screwed?
   Please respnd&#8230;this is the pits!
   Thanks, Wendy E</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Cesar</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/11/telmex-blocking-skype-vonage-in-mexico/#comment-11616</link>
		<dc:creator>Cesar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 12:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I didn&#039;t had any problems in Telmex before until today. I&#039;ve call once or twice a week to ukraine, every week, all this year.
Today, the call was hanging after one or two minutes on a call.
Then I decided to call Skype-to-phone, it was the exact same thing, (so, it was not a problem in the other end), the call hanged in 1-2 minutes.
Definely something wrong is going on.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t had any problems in Telmex before until today. I&#8217;ve call once or twice a week to ukraine, every week, all this year.
Today, the call was hanging after one or two minutes on a call.
Then I decided to call Skype-to-phone, it was the exact same thing, (so, it was not a problem in the other end), the call hanged in 1-2 minutes.
Definely something wrong is going on.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mark Shead</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/11/telmex-blocking-skype-vonage-in-mexico/#comment-11615</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Shead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2005 23:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Do the cable internet providers generally allow VOIP connections?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do the cable internet providers generally allow VOIP connections?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: El Oso, El Moreno, and El Abogado</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/11/telmex-blocking-skype-vonage-in-mexico/#comment-11614</link>
		<dc:creator>El Oso, El Moreno, and El Abogado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;30,000 Pounds of Bananas&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This morning, after my morning class and before dropping my girlfriend off at her work, we went to pay the phone bill at Telmex (who according to Om Malik has tried blocking Skype). This is still a process that amazes me. It shouldn&#039;t. I should be use...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>30,000 Pounds of Bananas</strong></p>

<p>This morning, after my morning class and before dropping my girlfriend off at her work, we went to pay the phone bill at Telmex (who according to Om Malik has tried blocking Skype). This is still a process that amazes me. It shouldn&#8217;t. I should be use&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: oso</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/11/telmex-blocking-skype-vonage-in-mexico/#comment-11613</link>
		<dc:creator>oso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I use Telmex and though I&#039;m not happy with their service nor support, I haven&#039;t had any problems over skype.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Telmex and though I&#8217;m not happy with their service nor support, I haven&#8217;t had any problems over skype.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Om Malik&#8217;s Broadband Blog &#187; Chilean Incumbent Blocking VoIP</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/11/telmex-blocking-skype-vonage-in-mexico/#comment-11608</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik&#8217;s Broadband Blog &#187; Chilean Incumbent Blocking VoIP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2005 01:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] nouncements, and baseball musings                             Chilean Incumbent Blocking VoIP                                     First Telmex now Telefonica. Regular reader, Leo emailed me a link to story  [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] nouncements, and baseball musings                             Chilean Incumbent Blocking VoIP                                     First Telmex now Telefonica. Regular reader, Leo emailed me a link to story  [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/11/telmex-blocking-skype-vonage-in-mexico/#comment-11612</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 14:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ror, how sure are you about SFR? actually can you send me more details on this?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;thanks&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ror, how sure are you about SFR? actually can you send me more details on this?</p>

<p>thanks</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rorkal04</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/05/11/telmex-blocking-skype-vonage-in-mexico/#comment-11611</link>
		<dc:creator>Rorkal04</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2005 14:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Since all telecom operators face this kind of challenge, many of them are using the same trick against VoIP traffic growth. The ones who worry the most currently are mobile operators, with the coming of 3G/UMTS:  this enables customers to convert their expensive and limited voice traffic into cheaper data traffic, and the cost of data traffic is expected to drop sharply in the future as competition increases. For example, SFR in France is doing pretty much the same as Telmex for its users : it detects VoIP users by detecting typical traffic patterns, then introduces random delays / bandwidth variation to degrade the service.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since all telecom operators face this kind of challenge, many of them are using the same trick against VoIP traffic growth. The ones who worry the most currently are mobile operators, with the coming of 3G/UMTS:  this enables customers to convert their expensive and limited voice traffic into cheaper data traffic, and the cost of data traffic is expected to drop sharply in the future as competition increases. For example, SFR in France is doing pretty much the same as Telmex for its users : it detects VoIP users by detecting typical traffic patterns, then introduces random delays / bandwidth variation to degrade the service.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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