Comments on: Why T-Mobile Should Offer iTunes Phone http://gigaom.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/ The Business of Technology Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:14:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Debby Williams http://gigaom.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-353489 Debby Williams Mon, 16 Jul 2007 09:43:52 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-353489 <p>An uncle sent me a Apple Iphone 4GB from North Carolina in the US and i reside in Nigeria,I dont know maybe it will work in the with my local carrier sim card such as MTCN,GLO and V-Mobile..I need a response ASAP. Thanks. Debby.</p> An uncle sent me a Apple Iphone 4GB from North Carolina in the US and i reside in Nigeria,I dont know maybe it will work in the with my local carrier sim card such as MTCN,GLO and V-Mobile..I need a response ASAP.
Thanks.
Debby.

]]> By: Keylogger http://gigaom.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10852 Keylogger Fri, 10 Feb 2006 07:02:53 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10852 <p>A pretty good read, there’s obviously some things that Om is unaware of right now and so some of his pivotal claims are wrong (not all of us can work for T-mobile ) so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. That said, I personally don’t think that people would get the “iTunes phone” unless they could download songs over the air. </p> <p>To me, anyway, I think that’d be the bigger selling point — to be able to pull down the latest song in the car, hook the phone up to the car’s stereo system and start blasting away</p> A pretty good read, there’s obviously some things that Om is unaware of right now and so some of his pivotal claims are wrong (not all of us can work for T-mobile ) so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. That said, I personally don’t think that people would get the “iTunes phone” unless they could download songs over the air.

To me, anyway, I think that’d be the bigger selling point — to be able to pull down the latest song in the car, hook the phone up to the car’s stereo system and start blasting away

]]> By: Om Malik’s Broadband Blog » Digital Music Services, Dot Bombs of Today? http://gigaom.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10851 Om Malik’s Broadband Blog » Digital Music Services, Dot Bombs of Today? Thu, 18 Aug 2005 00:10:01 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10851 [...] sketball.” Previously I had suggested that any carrier who strikes a deal with Apple will get a lot of Apple/iTunes users, and be better off in the long run [...] [...] sketball.” Previously I had suggested that any carrier who strikes a deal with Apple will get a lot of Apple/iTunes users, and be better off in the long run [...]

]]> By: Gabriel David http://gigaom.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10850 Gabriel David Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:29:38 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10850 Hi, I am Gabriel David, I resides in Nigeria. I want to send a phone from United States and I want to confirm if MOTOROLA Moto Razr V3 (Cingular Wireless) can work in Nigeria. Please i need the response asap. Thanks Gabriel David Hi,
I am Gabriel David, I resides in Nigeria. I want to send a phone from United States and I want to confirm if MOTOROLA Moto Razr V3 (Cingular Wireless) can work in Nigeria. Please i need the response asap. Thanks

Gabriel David

]]> By: Om Malik’s Broadband Blog » Mercora Goes Mobile http://gigaom.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10849 Om Malik’s Broadband Blog » Mercora Goes Mobile Tue, 10 May 2005 13:36:13 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10849 [...] carriers. Given that this really threatens their business model and insatiable greed (aka selling songs at $2.99 a pop), how long do you think [...] [...] carriers. Given that this really threatens their business model and insatiable greed (aka selling songs at $2.99 a pop), how long do you think [...]

]]> By: Om Malik’s Broadband Blog » Mercora Goes Mobile http://gigaom.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10848 Om Malik’s Broadband Blog » Mercora Goes Mobile Tue, 10 May 2005 06:42:25 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10848 [...] roblem with this model: carriers. Given that this really threatens their business model and insatiable greed (aka selling songs at $2.99 a pop), how long do you think [...] [...] roblem with this model: carriers. Given that this really threatens their business model and insatiable greed (aka selling songs at $2.99 a pop), how long do you think [...]

]]> By: samuel http://gigaom.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10847 samuel Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:27:53 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10847 BUY MOTOROLA V3,NEXTEL I860,AND PDA. COMPUTERS. Hello this is phone plaze located in lagos Nigeria we sell all kinds of nextel and motorola phone in a new and big boxl with all its accessories cd module,nextel i30 lcd,nextel i90 lcd,nextel i90c ,i860 and more lcd,mobile phone motorola v3,Motorola V3Razor for US$145 and more. and ipods with PDA phones with laptop computers. if you want to buy send mail to samphones2003@yahoo.com. seles and repair worldwide. BUY MOTOROLA V3,NEXTEL I860,AND PDA. COMPUTERS.

Hello this is phone plaze located in lagos Nigeria we sell all
kinds of nextel and motorola phone in a new and big boxl with all its
accessories cd module,nextel i30 lcd,nextel i90 lcd,nextel i90c ,i860 and more
lcd,mobile phone motorola v3,Motorola V3Razor for US$145 and more.
and ipods with PDA phones with laptop computers.
if you want to buy send mail to
samphones2003@yahoo.com.
seles and repair worldwide.

]]> By: Damian http://gigaom.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10846 Damian Fri, 22 Apr 2005 23:49:58 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10846 Mike D - wasn't being really serious - I imagine a lot of people have thought about this - more power to you if you came up with first. Just finished reading the article - great stuff - we're definitely on the same page. Om - give my "crown" to Mike.... Thanks, as always, for the link Om! Mike D - wasn’t being really serious - I imagine a lot of people have thought about this - more power to you if you came up with first.

Just finished reading the article - great stuff - we’re definitely on the same page. Om - give my “crown” to Mike….

Thanks, as always, for the link Om!

]]> By: Jesse Kopelman http://gigaom.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10845 Jesse Kopelman Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:49:58 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10845 MVNO is always a good option, because the big carriers be dumb. MVNO is always a good option, because the big carriers be dumb.

]]> By: Om Malik http://gigaom.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10844 Om Malik Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:43:49 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10844 i think its time to see that both mike and damian had good ideas about mvno and well that's a good way to see that might be the only option for apple. if they can't work something out with t-mobile. i think its time to see that both mike and damian had good ideas about mvno and well that’s a good way to see that might be the only option for apple. if they can’t work something out with t-mobile.

]]> By: Mike D. http://gigaom.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10843 Mike D. Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:21:02 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10843 Are you talking about me Damian? I think I beat you by about 5 months on that one (see article linked above), but if it's any consolation, I'm sure others have thought of this before either of us. I just haven't read it anywhere. Are you talking about me Damian? I think I beat you by about 5 months on that one (see article linked above), but if it’s any consolation, I’m sure others have thought of this before either of us. I just haven’t read it anywhere.

]]> By: Om Malik http://gigaom.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10842 Om Malik Fri, 22 Apr 2005 05:22:00 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10842 sorry about the bad math... i meant 10%. sorry again about. also damian - added link to your site/piece sorry about the bad math… i meant 10%. sorry again about. also damian - added link to your site/piece

]]> By: Damian http://gigaom.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10841 Damian Fri, 22 Apr 2005 02:17:55 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10841 People biting my old posts (not you Om!)? http://www.mediathinking.com/comments/P133_0_1_0/ "Apple iPhone + MVNO = potential winner" People biting my old posts (not you Om!)?

(link)

“Apple iPhone + MVNO = potential winner”

]]> By: Earle http://gigaom.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10840 Earle Fri, 22 Apr 2005 01:34:31 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10840 T-Mob, bah... Surely people would rather pay Cingular $4 for the latest tracks... :~) T-Mob, bah… Surely people would rather pay Cingular $4 for the latest tracks… :~)

]]> By: Pilott http://gigaom.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10839 Pilott Fri, 22 Apr 2005 00:06:26 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10839 10 millions ipod's *20% = 2 millions users ipod number 10 millionth sold December 16 2004 they might have lost 1,2 billion according to your calculations. excellent review of the global weather change. 10 millions ipod’s *20% = 2 millions users
ipod number 10 millionth sold December 16 2004
they might have lost 1,2 billion according to your calculations.

excellent review of the global weather change.

]]> By: jbelkin http://gigaom.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10838 jbelkin Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:28:03 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2005/04/21/why-t-mobile-should-offer-itunes-phone/#comment-10838 The cell phone company guys just sees the 3-second ringtone market and extapolates that out to the music market thinking there's $10 billion (projected) just for their plucking. How do you create a ringtone - most people are not going to bother ripping, snipping and figuring how to load - $2.50 is convenience not anything else. Music is different. Everyone knows how to rip and load a Mp3 - they also get confused by looking at itunes - deceptively simple. What they should look at is the WalMart store> The world's largest retailer - nearly $270 BILLION in revenue (not a typo - $270 BILLION) yet how are they doing with the CHEAPEST online music store (selling a format no one wants) - and the mobile guys are going to compete by trying to sell tracks for how much? $2? $3? In another weird DRM? Liquid Audio-like? Good luck on ya ... and you can't just exactly set up a crate and start selling tracks - you need an entire INFRASTRUCTURE with CUSTOMER SUPPORT - take a step back - how are they doing now with 'advanced services/premium' selling? Not so much? With a huge churn rate? If they can sell SMS, IM, photo uploading - how are they gonna sell $3 music tracks? Instead of drooling at the powerpoint revenue chart, look at the cost of getting back to breaking even - I have no idea what a store costs to set up but I'll bet you need to spend $20 million to advertise you have a store - and what happens when another carrier joins in? What will be their first promotion? That's right, cutting prices. So after $20 million in ads and maybe another $50 million to set it up - you're back to sell "liquid audio" tracks for $.99 - only now you need to sell 70 million just to come close to breaking even. And the real clicher? Like the PSP, you have to a phone for - why? TO TALK ON. Who's going to run down the battery to listen to music ... and franky, if they cannot design an interface that requires ten minutes to figure out ten minutes to cahnge the time, how's that uploading, playing, shuffling and display interface? What they should do? Charge extra for the phone & turning on Bluetooth - they get the cash upfront and ask Apple for a nice booth at the stores on a weekend. I have t-mobile so I hope they come to their senses. The cell phone company guys just sees the 3-second ringtone market and extapolates that out to the music market thinking there’s $10 billion (projected) just for their plucking. How do you create a ringtone - most people are not going to bother ripping, snipping and figuring how to load - $2.50 is convenience not anything else. Music is different. Everyone knows how to rip and load a Mp3 - they also get confused by looking at itunes - deceptively simple. What they should look at is the WalMart store> The world’s largest retailer - nearly $270 BILLION in revenue (not a typo - $270 BILLION) yet how are they doing with the CHEAPEST online music store (selling a format no one wants) - and the mobile guys are going to compete by trying to sell tracks for how much? $2? $3? In another weird DRM? Liquid Audio-like? Good luck on ya … and you can’t just exactly set up a crate and start selling tracks - you need an entire INFRASTRUCTURE with CUSTOMER SUPPORT - take a step back - how are they doing now with ‘advanced services/premium’ selling? Not so much? With a huge churn rate? If they can sell SMS, IM, photo uploading - how are they gonna sell $3 music tracks? Instead of drooling at the powerpoint revenue chart, look at the cost of getting back to breaking even - I have no idea what a store costs to set up but I’ll bet you need to spend $20 million to advertise you have a store - and what happens when another carrier joins in? What will be their first promotion? That’s right, cutting prices. So after $20 million in ads and maybe another $50 million to set it up - you’re back to sell “liquid audio” tracks for $.99 - only now you need to sell 70 million just to come close to breaking even.

And the real clicher? Like the PSP, you have to a phone for - why? TO TALK ON. Who’s going to run down the battery to listen to music … and franky, if they cannot design an interface that requires ten minutes to figure out ten minutes to cahnge the time, how’s that uploading, playing, shuffling and display interface?

What they should do? Charge extra for the phone & turning on Bluetooth - they get the cash upfront and ask Apple for a nice booth at the stores on a weekend.

I have t-mobile so I hope they come to their senses.

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