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	<title>Comments on: LifeSize - Video-Conferencing in HiDef</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/04/18/lifesize-video-conferencing-in-hidef/#comment-10665</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 15:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;www.lifesize.com/products/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Saw the HD video room onsite and is unbelievable, something this mkt needed for years.  Approx three times better @ 384.
The phone is IP and PSTN with much better technology than we had....able to run in a tech room and not hear the fans or cell phones/blackberry on the table....&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Saw the HD video room onsite and is unbelievable, something this mkt needed for years.  Approx three times better @ 384.<br />
The phone is IP and PSTN with much better technology than we had&#8230;.able to run in a tech room and not hear the fans or cell phones/blackberry on the table&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: DrDebug</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/04/18/lifesize-video-conferencing-in-hidef/#comment-10664</link>
		<dc:creator>DrDebug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.statesman.com/business/content/business/stories/04/19lifesize.html


Ok, so they may have something:
"LifeSize engineers developed customized image-processing chips and the extensive software required both to handle the high-definition images and to make their equipment work with other conferencing gear. Most of the technical team at the 65-employee company is devoted to software development."</description>
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<p>Ok, so they may have something:<br />
&#8220;LifeSize engineers developed customized image-processing chips and the extensive software required both to handle the high-definition images and to make their equipment work with other conferencing gear. Most of the technical team at the 65-employee company is devoted to software development.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DrDebug</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/04/18/lifesize-video-conferencing-in-hidef/#comment-10663</link>
		<dc:creator>DrDebug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2005 15:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nah - DrDebug spends some days looking at crappy H.264 and VC-1 video at the claimed data rates.  If they have magic technology for better compression, video conferencing is probably the least profitable avenue for capitalizing on it.  Their system is only going to useful for board-room to board-room setups given that you really want to have their gear on both ends to get the nice picture.

Om can check his logs to see where I work, and it isn't a videoconferencing company.  I worked a long time ago on iVisit (www.ivisit.com), and I worked for a failed FTTH company, SandStream Communications, during the boom.  This experience has taught me to be skeptical of claims where I don't control the source video for testing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nah - DrDebug spends some days looking at crappy H.264 and VC-1 video at the claimed data rates.  If they have magic technology for better compression, video conferencing is probably the least profitable avenue for capitalizing on it.  Their system is only going to useful for board-room to board-room setups given that you really want to have their gear on both ends to get the nice picture.</p>
<p>Om can check his logs to see where I work, and it isn&#8217;t a videoconferencing company.  I worked a long time ago on iVisit (www.ivisit.com), and I worked for a failed FTTH company, SandStream Communications, during the boom.  This experience has taught me to be skeptical of claims where I don&#8217;t control the source video for testing.</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/04/18/lifesize-video-conferencing-in-hidef/#comment-10662</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well that's the thing. when you find it unbelievable, you know this is game changing technology. anyway stay tuned on more details</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well that&#8217;s the thing. when you find it unbelievable, you know this is game changing technology. anyway stay tuned on more details</p>
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		<title>By: Myth Defined</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/04/18/lifesize-video-conferencing-in-hidef/#comment-10661</link>
		<dc:creator>Myth Defined</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DrDebug is sitting at his cubical at Polycom hoping it does not work....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DrDebug is sitting at his cubical at Polycom hoping it does not work&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: DrDebug</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/04/18/lifesize-video-conferencing-in-hidef/#comment-10660</link>
		<dc:creator>DrDebug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Om -

Was the video talking heads?  A largely static background with just some slight body movement compresses really well when compared to a more normal video stream.  I am just having problems believing that they have made big advances in encoding technology versus the big researchers, particularly since they are trying to hire a 'video team lead' to handle H.264.</description>
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<p>Was the video talking heads?  A largely static background with just some slight body movement compresses really well when compared to a more normal video stream.  I am just having problems believing that they have made big advances in encoding technology versus the big researchers, particularly since they are trying to hire a &#8216;video team lead&#8217; to handle H.264.</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/04/18/lifesize-video-conferencing-in-hidef/#comment-10659</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>saw this and was suitably impressed. believe me i am skeptical until seriously convinced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saw this and was suitably impressed. believe me i am skeptical until seriously convinced.</p>
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		<title>By: DrDebug</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/04/18/lifesize-video-conferencing-in-hidef/#comment-10658</link>
		<dc:creator>DrDebug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from their site - "LifeSize systems are based on the latest H.264 standard".

The ways to get their resolution over H.264 is to either reduce the update rate, resoluition, or assume that we are only doing talking heads - static backgrounds and moving heads.

Until you see their video quality at one mb/s, I wouldn't buy the hype.  Even professional H.264 encoders at NTSC resolutions output pretty bad video at 1 mb/s - I doubt they do better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from their site - &#8220;LifeSize systems are based on the latest H.264 standard&#8221;.</p>
<p>The ways to get their resolution over H.264 is to either reduce the update rate, resoluition, or assume that we are only doing talking heads - static backgrounds and moving heads.</p>
<p>Until you see their video quality at one mb/s, I wouldn&#8217;t buy the hype.  Even professional H.264 encoders at NTSC resolutions output pretty bad video at 1 mb/s - I doubt they do better.</p>
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