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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/02/13/ms_reader_activ/#comment-37849</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carlos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 02:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have many e-bools purchased from Amazaon.com from 2004-2006 which they have ceased supporting. My problem is that all but one of the machines that I had authorized are no longer working and beyond repair. The one laptop that I have authorized is 6 years old and probably won&#039;t last much longer.

I have tried to activate new machines but to no avail. I sent off an e-mail asking Microsoft how to deactivate older machine and authorize new ones but they have not responded.

Is there anyway to resolve this and not lose several hundred dollars of ebooks?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have many e-bools purchased from Amazaon.com from 2004-2006 which they have ceased supporting. My problem is that all but one of the machines that I had authorized are no longer working and beyond repair. The one laptop that I have authorized is 6 years old and probably won&#8217;t last much longer.</p>
<p>I have tried to activate new machines but to no avail. I sent off an e-mail asking Microsoft how to deactivate older machine and authorize new ones but they have not responded.</p>
<p>Is there anyway to resolve this and not lose several hundred dollars of ebooks?</p>
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		<title>By: How to Share DRM Ebooks &#124; The Buzz on Ereading</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/02/13/ms_reader_activ/#comment-37848</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[How to Share DRM Ebooks &#124; The Buzz on Ereading]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 04:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] you’ve hit your limit, you won’t be able to add another computer unless you go through the seven circles of hell.  Sometimes people can’t get Adobe DRM to ever activate * cough* Jayne * cough *.  Further, not [...]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you’ve hit your limit, you won’t be able to add another computer unless you go through the seven circles of hell.  Sometimes people can’t get Adobe DRM to ever activate * cough* Jayne * cough *.  Further, not [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/02/13/ms_reader_activ/#comment-37847</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 21:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;To Microsoft’s credit they admitted this is a very poor design and will be revamped sometime this year.&quot;

haha - this is a 2005 article and the situation has gotten worse, not better. I&#039;ve been trying for 3 days to activate Reader and the process just times out. I wonder if the new iPad with have these hassles? I know Kindle doesn&#039;t.

This is just one more in a long line of Microsoft&#039;s great ideas that they just couldn&#039;t execute properly.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To Microsoft’s credit they admitted this is a very poor design and will be revamped sometime this year.&#8221;</p>
<p>haha &#8211; this is a 2005 article and the situation has gotten worse, not better. I&#8217;ve been trying for 3 days to activate Reader and the process just times out. I wonder if the new iPad with have these hassles? I know Kindle doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>This is just one more in a long line of Microsoft&#8217;s great ideas that they just couldn&#8217;t execute properly.</p>
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		<title>By: Steeve</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/02/13/ms_reader_activ/#comment-37828</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steeve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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        I usualy buy ebooks in Adobe format. As I find Adobe more flexible. This time around the books I wanted were only available in lit format. I bought them (6 books) installed MS reader, went through the activation process. I read the first 2 books. and planned to enjoy the rest during thanksgiving. a week later (today) I try to start reading where I left off, But MS reader refuse to open the books, saying that it&#039;s been updated and I need to re-activate again. I am a tad irritated at this point, but no help for it, I try to re-activate it and I get : &quot;Microsoft Activation Server is offline for regular maintenance or upgrade, or it may have technical difficulties now. Please try activating again later.&quot;. I am very busy and I have only week-ends and holidays, to enjoy my reading. being locked out of books I bougth that are on my hardrive. because of an &quot;update&quot; or other technical issue at Microsoft, left a bad taste in my mouth. it was a mistake trying this format. I&#039;ll stick to pdf from now on. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>        I usualy buy ebooks in Adobe format. As I find Adobe more flexible. This time around the books I wanted were only available in lit format. I bought them (6 books) installed MS reader, went through the activation process. I read the first 2 books. and planned to enjoy the rest during thanksgiving. a week later (today) I try to start reading where I left off, But MS reader refuse to open the books, saying that it&#8217;s been updated and I need to re-activate again. I am a tad irritated at this point, but no help for it, I try to re-activate it and I get : &#8220;Microsoft Activation Server is offline for regular maintenance or upgrade, or it may have technical difficulties now. Please try activating again later.&#8221;. I am very busy and I have only week-ends and holidays, to enjoy my reading. being locked out of books I bougth that are on my hardrive. because of an &#8220;update&#8221; or other technical issue at Microsoft, left a bad taste in my mouth. it was a mistake trying this format. I&#8217;ll stick to pdf from now on. </p>
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		<title>By: Stan Hjerleid</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/02/13/ms_reader_activ/#comment-37829</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stan Hjerleid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well it&#039;s October 2006 and it is the same thing all over again.  This is the 2nd time I&#039;ve gone through this, 2 yrs apart. I upgraded from Axim X30i to Axim X51v.  I do a lot of testing, Vista, XP Pro etc and a lot of rebuilds.  In the process I have used up my activation quotas.

This time I have been trying for 6 days now.  Every time I go to the activation page, I get message that quota is exceeded and to request another.  It states specifically that someone will call back.  If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.  Finally when I submit a request (via their webpage) it won&#039;t allow me to do it stating I have a request pending and to call MS Product Support (read that to mean at least 2 hours wasted if you can get someone who speaks English).  Called last night and after an hour they told me that the people that need to act on the request would call me.  I gave them a window ot 6 AM to 10 AM MDT.   Alas, 10:45 came and went and no call.  I called them again and went through the same exercise. Then again they needed a phone number (which I&#039;d given to 3 different folks as I climbed the phone tree) and a time window they could call me.  I refused and told them I wouldn&#039;t give them one as they won&#039;t call anyway.  That seemed to give the agent pause as he said he would escalate.  I did get an email from the agent and he said if I didn&#039;t get this resolved in 2 days to email him.

I&#039;m not very hopeful.
If I did not have several hundred dollars of MS Reader ebooks, I wouldn&#039;t even be going through this.

I have a new philosopy as of today.  I will never buy another ebook that uses Microsoft Reader.  If I can&#039;t get it in another  format, eReader/Mobipocket, I&#039;ll order the book in hardcover from Amazon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it&#8217;s October 2006 and it is the same thing all over again.  This is the 2nd time I&#8217;ve gone through this, 2 yrs apart. I upgraded from Axim X30i to Axim X51v.  I do a lot of testing, Vista, XP Pro etc and a lot of rebuilds.  In the process I have used up my activation quotas.</p>
<p>This time I have been trying for 6 days now.  Every time I go to the activation page, I get message that quota is exceeded and to request another.  It states specifically that someone will call back.  If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.  Finally when I submit a request (via their webpage) it won&#8217;t allow me to do it stating I have a request pending and to call MS Product Support (read that to mean at least 2 hours wasted if you can get someone who speaks English).  Called last night and after an hour they told me that the people that need to act on the request would call me.  I gave them a window ot 6 AM to 10 AM MDT.   Alas, 10:45 came and went and no call.  I called them again and went through the same exercise. Then again they needed a phone number (which I&#8217;d given to 3 different folks as I climbed the phone tree) and a time window they could call me.  I refused and told them I wouldn&#8217;t give them one as they won&#8217;t call anyway.  That seemed to give the agent pause as he said he would escalate.  I did get an email from the agent and he said if I didn&#8217;t get this resolved in 2 days to email him.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not very hopeful.<br />
If I did not have several hundred dollars of MS Reader ebooks, I wouldn&#8217;t even be going through this.</p>
<p>I have a new philosopy as of today.  I will never buy another ebook that uses Microsoft Reader.  If I can&#8217;t get it in another  format, eReader/Mobipocket, I&#8217;ll order the book in hardcover from Amazon.</p>
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		<title>By: Wong Jor Fei</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/02/13/ms_reader_activ/#comment-37830</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wong Jor Fei]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had the same painful experience with MS Reader.

I&#039;m using a USB-to-IDE cable so that I could use additional hard disks with my notebook - I have about 10 hard disks from my old desktop PC. Every time I plugged in an additional hard disk, I was asked to activate my MS Reader again. At first, I didn&#039;t realize that there was a maximum of six activations per Passport account. I only got to know this when there was a failure with notebook&#039;s primary hard disk and I was unable to activate my MS Reader after replacing the faulty hard disk. It took me months to get a new activation.

Now I stop purchasing e-books in MS Reader format. I prefer e-books of Adobe format. Adobe allows you to deactivate devices that you don&#039;t use anymore. Do you know that MS Reader does not have a feature to rotate the page making it difficult to read material printed at 90-degree orientation. Adobe reader does have this feature.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the same painful experience with MS Reader.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m using a USB-to-IDE cable so that I could use additional hard disks with my notebook &#8211; I have about 10 hard disks from my old desktop PC. Every time I plugged in an additional hard disk, I was asked to activate my MS Reader again. At first, I didn&#8217;t realize that there was a maximum of six activations per Passport account. I only got to know this when there was a failure with notebook&#8217;s primary hard disk and I was unable to activate my MS Reader after replacing the faulty hard disk. It took me months to get a new activation.</p>
<p>Now I stop purchasing e-books in MS Reader format. I prefer e-books of Adobe format. Adobe allows you to deactivate devices that you don&#8217;t use anymore. Do you know that MS Reader does not have a feature to rotate the page making it difficult to read material printed at 90-degree orientation. Adobe reader does have this feature.   </p>
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		<title>By: Bud</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/02/13/ms_reader_activ/#comment-37831</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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        I recently updated my IPAQ h2200 pocketPC&#039;s firmware to version 1.10.07. Since then, I have been unable to read any Microsoft Reader ebooks that require a DRM. I have attempted to re-activate the application many times in the last month. This is the second time that I have had an activation issue on my PDA. I will never buy a Reader ebook again.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>        I recently updated my IPAQ h2200 pocketPC&#8217;s firmware to version 1.10.07. Since then, I have been unable to read any Microsoft Reader ebooks that require a DRM. I have attempted to re-activate the application many times in the last month. This is the second time that I have had an activation issue on my PDA. I will never buy a Reader ebook again.</p>
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		<title>By: Scotty</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/02/13/ms_reader_activ/#comment-37832</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scotty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reason Microsoft doesn&#039;t talk about de-authentication of devices is because of one critical design flaw in their DRM:

There is no way to de-authenticate a device.

From what I can tell each &quot;download capable&quot; authenticated device (desktop/tablet) gets its own key and all content that device can read has to have been encrypted with that key. I&#039;ve always had to go re-download content from Amazon/Fictionwise after authenticating a new &quot;download capable&quot; device.

Since all of the content is permanently encrypted with that devices key how would Microsoft de-authenticate the content?

The X.509 security certificate designers forgot about this issue too.

Their hack was to add revocation lists. But for that scheme to work the clients have to run out and check with the certificate issuer to see if the certificate has been yanked. (hence the use of the word &quot;hack&quot;.)

So imagine if Microsoft implemented that scheme.

Each time you go to purchase a new secure eBook the spiffy new MSReader DRM would inquire of Microsoft as to whether it had been de-authenticated. If so, it would commit suicide. All content encrypted with its key would no longer be accessible.

If you were crafty and backed up your DLL&#039;s you could continue to read content you had previously downloaded, but you would never be able to purchase new content. Plus the MSReader could run out every so often, when it noticed the &#039;net was available, and check it&#039;s authorization and commit suicide as needed.

If Microsoft implemented this scheme they could provide us with a simple self help desk that would allow us to zap authorizations at will. The &quot;stick&quot; would be that each time you re-authenticate a system you would be forced to re-download all your titles for that system, so you&#039;d want to think carefully. But you would never be locked out of your content unless the bookshelf providers (Amazon/Fictionwise) denied you the ability to download the titles you had perviously purchased.

Unfortunately, Microsoft has been legally found to be a consumer harming monopoly so based upon that legal determination we can safely expect they won&#039;t do anything about implementing something like this.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason Microsoft doesn&#8217;t talk about de-authentication of devices is because of one critical design flaw in their DRM:</p>
<p>There is no way to de-authenticate a device.</p>
<p>From what I can tell each &#8220;download capable&#8221; authenticated device (desktop/tablet) gets its own key and all content that device can read has to have been encrypted with that key. I&#8217;ve always had to go re-download content from Amazon/Fictionwise after authenticating a new &#8220;download capable&#8221; device.</p>
<p>Since all of the content is permanently encrypted with that devices key how would Microsoft de-authenticate the content?</p>
<p>The X.509 security certificate designers forgot about this issue too.</p>
<p>Their hack was to add revocation lists. But for that scheme to work the clients have to run out and check with the certificate issuer to see if the certificate has been yanked. (hence the use of the word &#8220;hack&#8221;.)</p>
<p>So imagine if Microsoft implemented that scheme.</p>
<p>Each time you go to purchase a new secure eBook the spiffy new MSReader DRM would inquire of Microsoft as to whether it had been de-authenticated. If so, it would commit suicide. All content encrypted with its key would no longer be accessible.</p>
<p>If you were crafty and backed up your DLL&#8217;s you could continue to read content you had previously downloaded, but you would never be able to purchase new content. Plus the MSReader could run out every so often, when it noticed the &#8216;net was available, and check it&#8217;s authorization and commit suicide as needed.</p>
<p>If Microsoft implemented this scheme they could provide us with a simple self help desk that would allow us to zap authorizations at will. The &#8220;stick&#8221; would be that each time you re-authenticate a system you would be forced to re-download all your titles for that system, so you&#8217;d want to think carefully. But you would never be locked out of your content unless the bookshelf providers (Amazon/Fictionwise) denied you the ability to download the titles you had perviously purchased.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, Microsoft has been legally found to be a consumer harming monopoly so based upon that legal determination we can safely expect they won&#8217;t do anything about implementing something like this.</p>
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		<title>By: jk</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/02/13/ms_reader_activ/#comment-37833</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 16:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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        Bruce, make sure you activated with the same Passport account you used when you bought the books.  They can&#039;t be read on another account.  If that&#039;s not it then it&#039;s another sign that MS Reader DRM is broken.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>        Bruce, make sure you activated with the same Passport account you used when you bought the books.  They can&#8217;t be read on another account.  If that&#8217;s not it then it&#8217;s another sign that MS Reader DRM is broken.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2005/02/13/ms_reader_activ/#comment-37834</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 16:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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        Activation is only the first problem with my HP iPAQ 5455 (Pocket PC 2002) and HP iPAQ 4700 (Windows Mobile 2003 2nd Ed.). After I get successful activations using my MS Password (the same one I bought my eBooks with), I get an error msg on both mobile devices that says &quot;This copy of the Microsoft Reader cannot open this title. You may not have the appropriate rights for viewing the content. If you are the rightful owner of this title, please try reactivating your Microsoft Reader. See the Guidebook for instructions.&quot; I can see all the eBooks on my laptop with no problem. What gives here??
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>        Activation is only the first problem with my HP iPAQ 5455 (Pocket PC 2002) and HP iPAQ 4700 (Windows Mobile 2003 2nd Ed.). After I get successful activations using my MS Password (the same one I bought my eBooks with), I get an error msg on both mobile devices that says &#8220;This copy of the Microsoft Reader cannot open this title. You may not have the appropriate rights for viewing the content. If you are the rightful owner of this title, please try reactivating your Microsoft Reader. See the Guidebook for instructions.&#8221; I can see all the eBooks on my laptop with no problem. What gives here??</p>
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