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		<title>By: Damian</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2004/10/30/blog-based-research-model-anyone/#comment-4265</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
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		<description>As a member of the buy-side community, and a reader of James (his stuff is great), I think you raise some interesting points and some points that are a bit confusing.

First is the idea of analysts blogging. This is not a change in the business model, but rather a change in the way analysts publish their information. All analysts currently publish via email which, while less than optimal, is available to me anywhere. So, more analysts publishing via RSS would be great.  I've told James this, and I encourage him to encourage other firms to do the same!

The second point about the whole idea of sell-side analysts verses independent firms is also an interesting point.  Om, you point out that a bubble is getting ready to burst - it burst when the SEC and Spitzer came down on the industry.  Sell-side analysts used to make millions of dollars a year and there were a lot of them.

Now the number has been reduced, the salaries have been cut, and a number of banks are wondering why they are in the business at all.  Add to that companies like Fidelity asking that research and trading be unbundled - and you've got a real problem on your hands.  We've also seen the rise of numerous independent firms as well.  Anyway you look at it, the sell-side analyst is having difficulty.

But blogs are, really, just independent research without the cost.  Most are supported by other income - either from a bank like James, or from publishing like you, Om.  Some may be supported by advertising, but I think this is a tough road to go.  So what value to blogs bring?  Well, they don't provide business models like the sell-side (as you pointed out), which is sometime useful for comparing with your own model or getting a quick idea of the metrics of a company.  They generally provide, rather, a high-level view of an industry and the issues affecting that industry.  And often times, as is the case with you, Om, the visitors leave comments that in some cases are more useful than the entry itself (no offense - and I'm also not counting my own in this category).

For me personally, I find blogs provide interesting information but that it is often not actionable.  Most people in the buy-side learn about news items well ahead of most bloggers (thanks to ready access to Bloomberg or the like) - so just highlighting news items isn't that useful.  A great deal of blogging focuses future companies (many of which are not public), or focus on issues that may or may not affect the current or near-term financial status of a company.

I guess my whole point in this overly long diatribe is that the blogging research company isn't a unique business model - independent research is everywhere - they just need to start using new publishing tools.  The reality is that most people in the financial community are slow to change - have you ever used a Bloomberg terminal?  It's like something from the 70s.  But if they change it everyone will get upset....so change is slow to come to community.  If you started an independent research company and were going to publish your ideas only via RSS, you'd have a very small group of customers! I will highlight that a few forward looking companies are publishing via RSS (regardless of what you think of them as a source): theStreet.com, Schaeffersresearch.com and MotleyFool.com.  As a result, they usually get a read in the mornings - as does James' EuroTelcoblog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a member of the buy-side community, and a reader of James (his stuff is great), I think you raise some interesting points and some points that are a bit confusing.</p>
<p>First is the idea of analysts blogging. This is not a change in the business model, but rather a change in the way analysts publish their information. All analysts currently publish via email which, while less than optimal, is available to me anywhere. So, more analysts publishing via RSS would be great.  I&#8217;ve told James this, and I encourage him to encourage other firms to do the same!</p>
<p>The second point about the whole idea of sell-side analysts verses independent firms is also an interesting point.  Om, you point out that a bubble is getting ready to burst - it burst when the SEC and Spitzer came down on the industry.  Sell-side analysts used to make millions of dollars a year and there were a lot of them.</p>
<p>Now the number has been reduced, the salaries have been cut, and a number of banks are wondering why they are in the business at all.  Add to that companies like Fidelity asking that research and trading be unbundled - and you&#8217;ve got a real problem on your hands.  We&#8217;ve also seen the rise of numerous independent firms as well.  Anyway you look at it, the sell-side analyst is having difficulty.</p>
<p>But blogs are, really, just independent research without the cost.  Most are supported by other income - either from a bank like James, or from publishing like you, Om.  Some may be supported by advertising, but I think this is a tough road to go.  So what value to blogs bring?  Well, they don&#8217;t provide business models like the sell-side (as you pointed out), which is sometime useful for comparing with your own model or getting a quick idea of the metrics of a company.  They generally provide, rather, a high-level view of an industry and the issues affecting that industry.  And often times, as is the case with you, Om, the visitors leave comments that in some cases are more useful than the entry itself (no offense - and I&#8217;m also not counting my own in this category).</p>
<p>For me personally, I find blogs provide interesting information but that it is often not actionable.  Most people in the buy-side learn about news items well ahead of most bloggers (thanks to ready access to Bloomberg or the like) - so just highlighting news items isn&#8217;t that useful.  A great deal of blogging focuses future companies (many of which are not public), or focus on issues that may or may not affect the current or near-term financial status of a company.</p>
<p>I guess my whole point in this overly long diatribe is that the blogging research company isn&#8217;t a unique business model - independent research is everywhere - they just need to start using new publishing tools.  The reality is that most people in the financial community are slow to change - have you ever used a Bloomberg terminal?  It&#8217;s like something from the 70s.  But if they change it everyone will get upset&#8230;.so change is slow to come to community.  If you started an independent research company and were going to publish your ideas only via RSS, you&#8217;d have a very small group of customers! I will highlight that a few forward looking companies are publishing via RSS (regardless of what you think of them as a source): theStreet.com, Schaeffersresearch.com and MotleyFool.com.  As a result, they usually get a read in the mornings - as does James&#8217; EuroTelcoblog.</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
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		<description>In my desire to be even more long-winded, I had a couple more thoughts after I submitted my comment.

1. Sell-side research and independent research needs to be differentiated.  There is too much of the same analysis going on around the sell-side community where they work up the financials, attach some P/E multiples to the numbers to determine fair value, and put out a recommendation.  If you want to get a sense of the value of this type of product, realize that many people use analyst rating as a contrary indicator.  That is, if every analyst thinks it's a buy, it might, in fact, be a sell.  This is actually where blogs do the best - looking at the larger picture.

What is needed is differentiated research which brings something else to the table.  For instance, Majestic Research, which I've mentioned before, combines the comScore web traffic data with financial models to produce a unique research product.

2. What is also needed are standardized formats for research reports. RSS is great for headlines, but it would be great to have the entire flow broken down into an XML stream.  One company that I know that is working on this is BlueMatrix (www.bluematrix.com).  They provide an ASP publishing system targeting the research community.  More importantly, they are working on an XML specification for publishing data call RIXML (www.rixml.com).  Now if we could only get companies to publish their financials according to standardized rules and in an XML format, we'd be all set.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my desire to be even more long-winded, I had a couple more thoughts after I submitted my comment.</p>
<p>1. Sell-side research and independent research needs to be differentiated.  There is too much of the same analysis going on around the sell-side community where they work up the financials, attach some P/E multiples to the numbers to determine fair value, and put out a recommendation.  If you want to get a sense of the value of this type of product, realize that many people use analyst rating as a contrary indicator.  That is, if every analyst thinks it&#8217;s a buy, it might, in fact, be a sell.  This is actually where blogs do the best - looking at the larger picture.</p>
<p>What is needed is differentiated research which brings something else to the table.  For instance, Majestic Research, which I&#8217;ve mentioned before, combines the comScore web traffic data with financial models to produce a unique research product.</p>
<p>2. What is also needed are standardized formats for research reports. RSS is great for headlines, but it would be great to have the entire flow broken down into an XML stream.  One company that I know that is working on this is BlueMatrix (www.bluematrix.com).  They provide an ASP publishing system targeting the research community.  More importantly, they are working on an XML specification for publishing data call RIXML (www.rixml.com).  Now if we could only get companies to publish their financials according to standardized rules and in an XML format, we&#8217;d be all set.</p>
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		<title>By: Om</title>
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		<description>Damian, your posts, both of them are good examples of how we really need to get the group think working in a format which is more useful. I agree, comments are the best part of this system, and hopefully more folks realize this as we go along. i agree, there is too much of the same thing in research reports, or at least the ones I read. i think some smart guy will come up witha  good publishing tool to get this going</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damian, your posts, both of them are good examples of how we really need to get the group think working in a format which is more useful. I agree, comments are the best part of this system, and hopefully more folks realize this as we go along. i agree, there is too much of the same thing in research reports, or at least the ones I read. i think some smart guy will come up witha  good publishing tool to get this going</p>
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		<title>By: skibare</title>
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		<description>watch the POUNDING of FULCRUM GLOBAL PARTNERS shorting Level3 tomorrow and see HOW much these idiots could use some '''SHORT SIDE HELP"' in figuring out VOIP and RECIP COMP

Skibare</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>watch the POUNDING of FULCRUM GLOBAL PARTNERS shorting Level3 tomorrow and see HOW much these idiots could use some &#8221;&#8217;SHORT SIDE HELP&#8221;&#8216; in figuring out VOIP and RECIP COMP</p>
<p>Skibare</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Castellano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Castellano</dc:creator>
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		<description>Om, what you need is a business to "translate" blog posts into finance talk so that they are meaningful to investors and not simply technological commentary.  Second of all, knowledgeable bloggers like yourself must probably be willing to post first to the equity (or debt) translation business, with a delay blog post going out to the general public, otherwise it's no value to the paying investor.  Third, the consortium of bloggers to be used in any equity research effort must have high integrity so they don't post nonsense in trying to drive a stock price up.  Fourth, you'd have to figure out how to compensate bloggers and the firm's analyst "translators" -- maybe payment based on blog hits, flowing to bloggers from a pool of soft dollar or subscription money that is provided to the "translation" research firm.

What I think I just described is already in practice at RealMoney.com, which is something another person commented on your post.

I believe true value add equity research requires a blending of real hands-on knowledge packaged and filtered in a way that can help investors make investment decisions.  But any true hands-on knowledge could be interpreted as insider information.  A business model that does work this way, using inside information on a collection of companies, is known as venture capital.  There's no harm in trading on inside information when there is no public market for the stock.

Perhaps then equity research is doomed to always suck.  But if the line can be found somewhere that can straddle access to real, useful information while legally reporting it to investors without running regulatory risk, that would certainly be a great business model to pursue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Om, what you need is a business to &#8220;translate&#8221; blog posts into finance talk so that they are meaningful to investors and not simply technological commentary.  Second of all, knowledgeable bloggers like yourself must probably be willing to post first to the equity (or debt) translation business, with a delay blog post going out to the general public, otherwise it&#8217;s no value to the paying investor.  Third, the consortium of bloggers to be used in any equity research effort must have high integrity so they don&#8217;t post nonsense in trying to drive a stock price up.  Fourth, you&#8217;d have to figure out how to compensate bloggers and the firm&#8217;s analyst &#8220;translators&#8221; &#8212; maybe payment based on blog hits, flowing to bloggers from a pool of soft dollar or subscription money that is provided to the &#8220;translation&#8221; research firm.</p>
<p>What I think I just described is already in practice at RealMoney.com, which is something another person commented on your post.</p>
<p>I believe true value add equity research requires a blending of real hands-on knowledge packaged and filtered in a way that can help investors make investment decisions.  But any true hands-on knowledge could be interpreted as insider information.  A business model that does work this way, using inside information on a collection of companies, is known as venture capital.  There&#8217;s no harm in trading on inside information when there is no public market for the stock.</p>
<p>Perhaps then equity research is doomed to always suck.  But if the line can be found somewhere that can straddle access to real, useful information while legally reporting it to investors without running regulatory risk, that would certainly be a great business model to pursue.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Kopelman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse Kopelman</dc:creator>
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		<description>One problem is that a company's general incompetance seems to have little effect on its short term performance (even when it is not a well kept secret). Eventually these problems always catch up with the company, but not before people have had a chance to make money. What I'm saying is that maybe honest criticism is not actually very valuable to investors. It is very valuable to other companies who are prospective clients and partners.  Sadly, these clients would quickly become offended when the "honest analyst" said something bad about them and stop using the service. So, in the end, it may be hard to make money from being honest and unbiased. This seems to be a general problem inherent to journalism as a profession.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One problem is that a company&#8217;s general incompetance seems to have little effect on its short term performance (even when it is not a well kept secret). Eventually these problems always catch up with the company, but not before people have had a chance to make money. What I&#8217;m saying is that maybe honest criticism is not actually very valuable to investors. It is very valuable to other companies who are prospective clients and partners.  Sadly, these clients would quickly become offended when the &#8220;honest analyst&#8221; said something bad about them and stop using the service. So, in the end, it may be hard to make money from being honest and unbiased. This seems to be a general problem inherent to journalism as a profession.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Rochelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Rochelle</dc:creator>
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		<description>As an IT guy who helps the sell-side AND the buy-side, I strongly agree that traditional research is great for the bottom of bird cages... it's paper and there's plenty of it. Interactive Quantitative Models from the sell-side and independent research houses are finally being demanded from the buy-side in a usable form. Excel spreadsheets are great, but it's clear that the sell-side is typically only sharing the models that they can spare to share without compromising their private models (their intellectual property) and they only share those models which don't rely on proprietary analytics - which narrows it down again to something just short of birdcage liner. The models that use proprietary analytics are the only interesting ones! Every buy-side firm I talk to says the sell side basically gives them junk (no offense to anyone).
So - now - there's another form of interactive research available using a software tool which converts excel models to web-based applications - securing logic on the server, tracking usage of the model, and making it a quick, cheap and painless process for the analyst. Check out XL2Web. I hate saying it, because it just sounds like a shameless plug... and it is... but it's something I totally believe adds value to both the sell- and buy-side. The clients of our clients are definitely noticing.
JR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an IT guy who helps the sell-side AND the buy-side, I strongly agree that traditional research is great for the bottom of bird cages&#8230; it&#8217;s paper and there&#8217;s plenty of it. Interactive Quantitative Models from the sell-side and independent research houses are finally being demanded from the buy-side in a usable form. Excel spreadsheets are great, but it&#8217;s clear that the sell-side is typically only sharing the models that they can spare to share without compromising their private models (their intellectual property) and they only share those models which don&#8217;t rely on proprietary analytics - which narrows it down again to something just short of birdcage liner. The models that use proprietary analytics are the only interesting ones! Every buy-side firm I talk to says the sell side basically gives them junk (no offense to anyone).<br />
So - now - there&#8217;s another form of interactive research available using a software tool which converts excel models to web-based applications - securing logic on the server, tracking usage of the model, and making it a quick, cheap and painless process for the analyst. Check out XL2Web. I hate saying it, because it just sounds like a shameless plug&#8230; and it is&#8230; but it&#8217;s something I totally believe adds value to both the sell- and buy-side. The clients of our clients are definitely noticing.<br />
JR</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Krakes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Krakes</dc:creator>
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		<description>I just came across your blog as a small RIA I think the idea of using the blog to create is a wonderful idea and one that will eventually do more than all the legislation to help the independent investor and their advisors.

Good luck and keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just came across your blog as a small RIA I think the idea of using the blog to create is a wonderful idea and one that will eventually do more than all the legislation to help the independent investor and their advisors.</p>
<p>Good luck and keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Castellano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Castellano</dc:creator>
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		<description>Earlier today, I met with two Babson MBA students interested in developing a plan to roll out the proposed Babson Mosaic Equity Research Club initiative.

The core MBA student management team discussed our possible roles.  A detailed Microsoft Excel 2003 model of Level 3 Communications may become the first "kernel" to be shared with the open source community.   Two more working professional offered to sign on as club advisors.  Continuing progress is being made on acquiring a faculty advisor.  We are exploring a variety of online collaborative alternatives.  One suggestion was that start we a BMERC wiki discussion.</description>
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<p>The core MBA student management team discussed our possible roles.  A detailed Microsoft Excel 2003 model of Level 3 Communications may become the first &#8220;kernel&#8221; to be shared with the open source community.   Two more working professional offered to sign on as club advisors.  Continuing progress is being made on acquiring a faculty advisor.  We are exploring a variety of online collaborative alternatives.  One suggestion was that start we a BMERC wiki discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: PaidContent.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaidContent.org</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://eurotelcoblog.blogspot.com/2004/10/morgan-merrill-and-j.html"&gt;Blogger-Journalists Giving Competition To Wall Street Research?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;

: This is a very interesting post by James Enck of Daiwa Securities SMBC Europe, on how high-quality research and information sources are being developed by blogs such as Om's (and mine's...though Om and James focus mainly on telco/software, and...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://eurotelcoblog.blogspot.com/2004/10/morgan-merrill-and-j.html">Blogger-Journalists Giving Competition To Wall Street Research?</a></strong></p>
<p>: This is a very interesting post by James Enck of Daiwa Securities SMBC Europe, on how high-quality research and information sources are being developed by blogs such as Om&#8217;s (and mine&#8217;s&#8230;though Om and James focus mainly on telco/software, and&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>Maultasch's Musings</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;New Uses for Blogs: A Survey&lt;/strong&gt;

Since I switched to the RSS reader I seem to be finding more articles and posts worth pointing to but not that I have something significant to say on. I'm going to start just listing groups of these articles. These...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>New Uses for Blogs: A Survey</strong></p>
<p>Since I switched to the RSS reader I seem to be finding more articles and posts worth pointing to but not that I have something significant to say on. I&#8217;m going to start just listing groups of these articles. These&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>.:&#124; randgaenge &#124;:.</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Blog-based Research Model&lt;/strong&gt;

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