Comments on: Google desktop versus Blinkx http://gigaom.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/ Business, Internet, Technology & Strategy Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:50:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Jeremy http://gigaom.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3951 Jeremy Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3951 I currently use X1, and love what it does for me. I tried Babble, but had firewall issues with it at work, and have been kicking the tires of Google. I have to agree with you, though, and found that it is not cutting it. I've done searches for people's contact information - I have a large address book, and it's easier to search by contact in X1 - and it neither returned emails or a contact card for the people. Plus, I'm a security freak - the whole integrated into the Google search page is somewhat scary. I currently use X1, and love what it does for me. I tried Babble, but had firewall issues with it at work, and have been kicking the tires of Google.

I have to agree with you, though, and found that it is not cutting it. I’ve done searches for people’s contact information - I have a large address book, and it’s easier to search by contact in X1 - and it neither returned emails or a contact card for the people.

Plus, I’m a security freak - the whole integrated into the Google search page is somewhat scary.

]]> By: abhijit http://gigaom.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3952 abhijit Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3952 Agree with you Om. And Blinkx's unobtrusive interface is certainly a pleasure to use. Plus, I don't have to open Internet Explorer every time! I've already thanked Google and sticking with Blinkx! Agree with you Om. And Blinkx’s unobtrusive interface is certainly a pleasure to use. Plus, I don’t have to open Internet Explorer every time!

I’ve already thanked Google and sticking with Blinkx!

]]> By: Nelson http://gigaom.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3953 Nelson Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3953 Om, I couldn't agree more. blinkx is a far superior application. Perhaps because it is so successful, the google team rushed out their version. Bad move. I found Google very limited. Blinkx is working for me. Om, I couldn’t agree more. blinkx is a far superior application. Perhaps because it is so successful, the google team rushed out their version. Bad move. I found Google very limited. Blinkx is working for me.

]]> By: Mel http://gigaom.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3954 Mel Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3954 I hear that. blinkx is king and I'm staying with it. Sorry Google I hear that. blinkx is king and I’m staying with it. Sorry Google

]]> By: Charlie Sierra http://gigaom.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3955 Charlie Sierra Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3955 I rarely run Windows anymore so I've yet to use either service, but allow me to suggest that if Blinkx wants to be relevant and more than just an industry footnote, they should get real serious about partnering with a large audience/sub base player, otherwise their future prospects are slim to nil. I rarely run Windows anymore so I’ve yet to use either service, but allow me to suggest that if Blinkx wants to be relevant and more than just an industry footnote, they should get real serious about partnering with a large audience/sub base player, otherwise their future prospects are slim to nil.

]]> By: mozam http://gigaom.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3956 mozam Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3956 RE: "Plus, I'm a security freak - the whole integrated into the Google search page is somewhat scary." Google Desktop (GD) runs as a server on your local PC and listens on localhost, which is only accessible locally. The most that is passed to Google is a referrer which could include path information in a document, but that is no more information than you clicking on an external link within a local document. The referrer that is passed to Google is not accessible since only the local PC has access to localhost. The search results from a Google search works similar to dogpile.com, which queries multiple search engines simultaneously. The dogpile request to Google is independent of the Dogpile’Äôs request to Overture, MSN and Yahoo for the same search. The information gotten from each search engine is kept separate on dogpile’Äôs server and merged before sending it back to your browser. In the case of GD, a plug-in installed in your browser fetches the results from google.com’Äôs index and your local GD index and merges the results before displaying it ’Äì a very clever design. BTW, you can make your GD index remotely searchable using port forwarding, but if someone compromises your system it’Äôs your fault for opening up remote access. If you do need secure remote access to the GD index you can install sshd on the PC and do port forwarding over an encrypted ssh tunnel. I have never tried Blinkx, but I’Äôve had bad experiences with applications that attach themselves to the title bar of all of your applications so I am a little hesitant. GD more than satisfies my needs. RE: “Plus, I’m a security freak - the whole integrated into the Google search page is somewhat scary.”

Google Desktop (GD) runs as a server on your local PC and listens on localhost, which is only accessible locally. The most that is passed to Google is a referrer which could include path information in a document, but that is no more information than you clicking on an external link within a local document. The referrer that is passed to Google is not accessible since only the local PC has access to localhost.

The search results from a Google search works similar to dogpile.com, which queries multiple search engines simultaneously. The dogpile request to Google is independent of the Dogpile’Äôs request to Overture, MSN and Yahoo for the same search. The information gotten from each search engine is kept separate on dogpile’Äôs server and merged before sending it back to your browser. In the case of GD, a plug-in installed in your browser fetches the results from google.com’Äôs index and your local GD index and merges the results before displaying it ’Äì a very clever design.

BTW, you can make your GD index remotely searchable using port forwarding, but if someone compromises your system it’Äôs your fault for opening up remote access. If you do need secure remote access to the GD index you can install sshd on the PC and do port forwarding over an encrypted ssh tunnel.

I have never tried Blinkx, but I’Äôve had bad experiences with applications that attach themselves to the title bar of all of your applications so I am a little hesitant. GD more than satisfies my needs.

]]> By: rtalcott http://gigaom.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3957 rtalcott Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3957 Blinkx would be great if it worked...doesn't seem to want to search my NAS drives...and doesn't find my email on a remote drive... Blinkx would be great if it worked…doesn’t seem to want to search my NAS drives…and doesn’t find my email on a remote drive…

]]> By: Om http://gigaom.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3958 Om Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3958 i think blinkx right now works only with the desktop hard drives and the web. i think you should drop them a note and check with them about when they will announce NAS support i think blinkx right now works only with the desktop hard drives and the web. i think you should drop them a note and check with them about when they will announce NAS support

]]> By: rtalcott http://gigaom.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3959 rtalcott Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3959 Om...Thank You...that explains that problem...sure would be nice if it worked with NAS as I keep everything there...makes it a lot easier. rt Om…Thank You…that explains that problem…sure would be nice if it worked with NAS as I keep everything there…makes it a lot easier.

rt

]]> By: Om http://gigaom.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3960 Om Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3960 by the way i tried with firewire and USB drives, and it works just fine with those drives. strange but i think they can extend the utility by scanning the network drives. by the way i tried with firewire and USB drives, and it works just fine with those drives. strange but i think they can extend the utility by scanning the network drives.

]]> By: Ash http://gigaom.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3961 Ash Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3961 For some reason, I have not been able to get Blinkx to work on my computer - every time I install it, my computer hangs before the indexing process completes. I have taken Blinkx for a spin at least a dozen times, but no love so far. Since many people here have gotten it to work for them, there is something peculiar about my machine which shows up only w/ the Blinkx beta. Unfortunate, because most users seem to like it, and one thing I certainly find lacking in GD is the ability to sort search results according to criteria other than relevancy - date created, title, size etc. For some reason, I have not been able to get Blinkx to work on my computer - every time I install it, my computer hangs before the indexing process completes. I have taken Blinkx for a spin at least a dozen times, but no love so far.

Since many people here have gotten it to work for them, there is something peculiar about my machine which shows up only w/ the Blinkx beta.

Unfortunate, because most users seem to like it, and one thing I certainly find lacking in GD is the ability to sort search results according to criteria other than relevancy - date created, title, size etc.

]]> By: Anonymous http://gigaom.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3962 Anonymous Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3962 Blinkx launched it's latest version of it's contextual search product,They've added features that allow a user to initiate a search by dropping a file into a folder. This feature is called Smart Folders,Microsoft and Apple have been talking about this for years looks like Blinkx has beat them. Om commented that Blinkx was like a mercedes compared to Google's Yugo you must agree the new version of Blinkx is like a Aston Martin. Blinkx launched it’s latest version of it’s contextual search product,They’ve added features that allow a user to initiate a search by dropping a file into a folder. This feature is called Smart Folders,Microsoft and Apple have been talking about this for years looks like Blinkx has beat them. Om commented that Blinkx was like a mercedes compared to Google’s Yugo you must agree the new version of Blinkx is like a Aston Martin.

]]> By: Anonymous http://gigaom.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3963 Anonymous Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3963 Remote acces to GDS could be easily done with DNKA tool: http://dnka.com/ Remote acces to GDS could be easily done with DNKA tool:
(link)

]]> By: Mr T http://gigaom.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3964 Mr T Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3964 <strong>Desktop search</strong> Last Thursday Google launched Google Desktop Search.This was a very good news: I was desperate for such a tool, as the number of files and folders on my PC become unmanageable, and as Windows integrated search is sub-standard (to say the least).Inter... Desktop search

Last Thursday Google launched Google Desktop Search.This was a very good news: I was desperate for such a tool, as the number of files and folders on my PC become unmanageable, and as Windows integrated search is sub-standard (to say the least).Inter…

]]> By: Search Engine Watch Blog http://gigaom.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3965 Search Engine Watch Blog Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3965 <strong>More On Google & Other Desktop Search Stuff</strong> <p>More assorted reports and comments on Google's new desktop search tool and other similar tools. They cover: a workaround for getting Firefox data tracked by GDS (the acronym that I see in growing use for Google Desktop Search), one blog...</p> More On Google & Other Desktop Search Stuff

More assorted reports and comments on Google’s new desktop search tool and other similar tools. They cover: a workaround for getting Firefox data tracked by GDS (the
acronym that I see in growing use for Google Desktop Search), one blog…

]]> By: Search Engine Watch Blog http://gigaom.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3966 Search Engine Watch Blog Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2004/10/14/google-desktop-versus-blinkx/#comment-3966 <strong>More On Google & Other Desktop Search Stuff</strong> <p>More assorted reports and comments on Google's new desktop search tool and other similar tools. They cover: a workaround for getting Firefox data tracked by GDS (the acronym that I see in growing use for Google Desktop Search), one blog...</p> More On Google & Other Desktop Search Stuff

More assorted reports and comments on Google’s new desktop search tool and other similar tools. They cover: a workaround for getting Firefox data tracked by GDS (the
acronym that I see in growing use for Google Desktop Search), one blog…

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